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Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid
    #5373319 - 03/07/06 04:12 AM (18 years, 17 days ago)

sp i just orderet seeds for a side project.It seems that this rudealis hybrid is not dependet on light cycle to flower. for me that means many things, I can be able to grow this outdoors. Living in a arcrix area where we have the "midnight sun" all summer (which basicly mean im so far north that there is sun 24hrs a day in the summer, no dark, and complete dark winters).. I have had two projects before with outdoors grow that has failed greatly using pure sativa strains . started indoors and moved outdoors after 5 months, but its been one failure after the other. So this rudealis hybrid is probably not the most potent smoke , compared to what i grow under a 400W hps, its not a heavy yielder but it gives multible yields. It can grow windowsill year round and give you several small yields. Lowryder will always be ready for harvesting 9 weeks after planting . now thats pretty cool- The other genetics than rudealis is Northern Light, which is a strain I have experience with from the past, good experience. Well its a side project. and this is just what i was told and how this strain is advertised. it remains to be seen if this is the promised strain for people here and in alaska that wants to grow outdoors :P  Results will be posted here in the summer. :cool:

a close up picture of this strain:


other seeds i have gotten and will use this year s Early Misty, Mauwie Wauwie and femininzed Sky Walker.

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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: shriek]
    #5373661 - 03/07/06 09:50 AM (18 years, 16 days ago)



see lowryder


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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: Hippie3]
    #5373706 - 03/07/06 10:13 AM (18 years, 16 days ago)

nice :smile:

thanks for posting that link to that thread :smile:

After some more reserach today I found that some breeding projects are going on with rhis strain to improve it. and also that a skunk type (pure indica) is also in development as a "autoflower" strain-.I should maybe try to get some pure rudealis genetica and do a little breeding project myself. I can see large benefits with rudealis genetics if that makes it autoflower but of course many negative things as well.

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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: shriek]
    #5374791 - 03/07/06 03:48 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

the 'oddball' strains always intrigued me.....

i would love to track down some of the aussie duckfoot strain :smile:


good luck with the lowryder :thumbup:


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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: Schwip]
    #5375398 - 03/07/06 06:27 PM (18 years, 16 days ago)

Heres something you may like to know, there are 2 stable auto flowering Lowryder crosses currently. Powerstout and Masterlow, they both have the same flowering cycle and size, but are more potent than the original lowryder, there's also a LRxAK47xLR out there, which is 75% auto flowering.

This website is dedicated to Lowryder, and ran and maintained by the creator of lowryder, and the foremost breeder of Lowryder crosses, check it out. http://www.highbred.net/forums/index.php

A lot of very interesting projects there. Somone managed to cross Lowryder and Hops, but was busted before he could carry on the genes.

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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5376628 - 03/08/06 05:00 AM (18 years, 15 days ago)

cool, thanks for the info and link. I will defently look into those strains. :smile:

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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: shriek]
    #5378267 - 03/08/06 05:07 PM (18 years, 15 days ago)

I was going to buy those seeds, but I decided that they were too expensive to buy for my first grow, and will probably buy a nirvana company pack for 20 bucks instead. Harder to grow? probably. More care? Probably. Harder to hide? By far. Cheaper and probably best for my first grow? Most likely. But yea, when I was thinking about it, and looked into it, it seemed to me like if you had the money, it would be an AWESOME strain for growing a personal stash and enough to slang somewhat to a few people occasionally.


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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: whatever123]
    #5381871 - 03/09/06 03:55 PM (18 years, 14 days ago)

there are some ak47 phenos that will autoflower. I would say, if you have the money, get a pack of ak47 and plant them. Out of 12 seeds, you will likely get at least 2 or 3 plants that have the auto flower pheno.

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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: FirstAvailable]
    #5383117 - 03/09/06 09:26 PM (18 years, 14 days ago)

Awesome, well now I know what I will buy.


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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: whatever123]
    #5384347 - 03/10/06 03:30 AM (18 years, 14 days ago)

Quote:

OFFICIAL LOWRYDER GROW GUIDE (10/04)

Preferred growing methods

Indoors, Lowryder performs very well in soil mix (pots or beds) or in
soil-less systems, where it can be cultivated from seed to bud in two
months ? 18 hours of light per day is recommended all the way through.
Switching light cycles down to 12 hours may diminish yields and
shorten the already-short life cycle slightly. Because Lowryder?s life
cycle is so brief, cloning becomes impracticable, so only plants from
seed are grown. By default, Lowryder is a great choice for
sea-of-green.

Because flowering plants and seedlings can be maintained in the same
room, Lowryder presents new possibilities for the small to medium home
grower, including ?staggering? your indoor harvest. A true continuous
harvest system may be achieved by planting new plants periodically to
replace the ones that have been harvested. This ensures that a grow
room is always full and always producing fresh bud, and one never has
too much work at once. Click here to learn more about the Joint
Doctor?s ?1-2-3? continuous harvest method.

For best results, place jiffy pellet or plant directly into 1-2
gal.pots. Alternatively, start in 4-inch peat pots, then place
rootbound females into a plant bed after sexing (at approx. 17-20
days) ? this may result in smaller plants than the first method. Grown
under a 12 to 24 hour/daylight cycle from start to finish. I recommend
18 hours per day; this can be decreased to 16 after the first month
with no loss of yield.


Outdoors: sow directly into soil after soaking, in 2 gal. pots or
plant beds. New stands of Lowryder can be planted up until late
summer, to ensure a continuous harvest outdoors. Avoid transplanting
if you can, but do so if plants become rootbound. Rogue (remove) males
at three weeks.


Growth Factors

Lowryder is extremely versatile in that it can be cultivated in
virtually any climate or grow environment. In fact, it has pushed the
envelope of growing, enabling early harvests in unlikely places like
Finland, the North West Territories, and other northern, short-season,
or high altitude areas. It is also well-adapted to backyard gardens,
windowsills and patios where plants can be easily concealed because of
their tiny size.

Nothing will mature earlier or faster than Lowryder! When other
varieties have barely begun flowering, Lowryder outdoor growers are
kicking up their feet and already enjoying their fresh harvests.


Characteristics

Lowryder virtually does away with the vegetative growth stage: it
passes almost immediately from the seedling stage to the flowering
period. To our knowledge, Lowryder has the shortest known life cycle
and height in the cannabis species.
Male plants may be identified as such after approx. 17-20 days, while
females show themselves a couple days later. Plants will even flower
under a continuous light regime.

Lowryder females usually grow no taller than 16-20 inches. 12-16
inches is typical. Light intensity, pot size, and proper pH all play
an important role in determining the size of plants at maturity ? the
better the conditions, the bigger the yield. Plants produce one main
cola, although when they receive adequate light, lower nodes branch
out profusely.

Yield and height are dependent on obvious growth factors. For example,
plants kept in small peat cups on a windowsill may yield as little as
1 g. and grow no taller than 6 inches, with no branching whatsoever;
while a plant in a 4-gallon container under high-intensity lighting
and good cultivation methods, can turn into a profusely branched,
two-foot wide 45-gram bud monster.


Fertilizer: During the first two weeks of growth, Lowryder should be
weekly light feedings of a ?grow? type nutrient solution, with
micronutrients. When plants pass into full flower, they should be
started on a ?bloom? regime for weeks 4 through 6. Mycorise-type
biological amendments (root stimulators) seem to increase growth
significantly.

Average flowering time
Indoors: 40-45 days (after a 15-20 day seedling stage)
Outdoors: ripens approx. 60 days after seed is sown.
Note: 100% of plants display the auto-flowering genotype.

AVERAGE HEIGHT
12 inches. Minimum: 5 inches, maximum 16 inches (very light-dependent,
with slight phenotype variations).

YIELD
Depending on light and other factors, Lowryder yields up to 45 g ? one
report even claims 96 g for one exceptional plant under hydroponics.
Extremely light-dependent in terms of yield. Without adequate
conditions, plants may stay extremely small, almost comically so ? but
still produce a decent smoke.

Buds are compactand close-quartered, slightly irregular and variable, with high bud/leaf ratio. Thick pistils, with orange coloration, and medium-sized, individual calyxes. Tends to be top-heavy indoors. Typically, budding sites start very close to the
ground.

High is uplifting, surprisingly strong. Well-rounded. Best suited for
outdoor activities. Smoke is smooth with pleasant, earthy undertones.
Smell is not overpowering. Unique flavor, with echoes of NL and
William?s Wonder in the bouquet.
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JD on nutes:

I get alot of requests for more info on nutrient needs for Lowryder. This is a hard question to answer as it depends how much money you want to shell out for nutrient products.

I get Advanced Nutrient products (many say the best) at a discount and I have adapted their formula for my own use. Advanced Nutrients provides a complete program for an 8-week grow and has a guide for different growing mediums.

For the first two weeks, I use what they recommend for seedlings.

Then I use the Micro 2+ Light Feeding program for the rest of their life cycle. I usually skip week 3 and 5 to bring it down to a 6 week program which I begin as soon as LRs are sexed.

I know it sounds complicated. Obviously all this is not needed.

As a rule of thumb, treat Lowryders like seedlings for the first 2-3 weeks, then switch them onto a light bloom program. So, you feed them a seedling/transplanting formula the first 2 weeks, then switch to a bloom fertilizer with something like a 5-10-5 or 1-2-1 ratio of N-P-K.

Give them a feeding of bloom fertilizer every week on weeks 3,4,5,6. Just pH-balanced water on week 7. Flushing solution on week 8.
...or for organic freaks, just plant into organic soil mix with bat guano mixed in... and put away the calculator...


this is jd's grow guide for them :smile:

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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: Hamstercut]
    #5385358 - 03/10/06 12:24 PM (18 years, 13 days ago)

When i was still growing weed (10 years ago) i had some very expensive seeds that gave me two plants that started flowering in the seedling stage. If i remember right the strain was called 'early girl' or something like that. I wasn't into breeding so i just though, what a crap seeds....

I always found it strange since normal plants are daylight sensitive but these continued to flower under 24 hours light/day. I ended up with two buds on a stick.

Never really thought about the autoflowering as a positive characteristic. More light => more weight.

Would it shorten the flowering time when if you light them 24 hours or would you get a better yield in the same timespan?


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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: Una]
    #5385718 - 03/10/06 01:52 PM (18 years, 13 days ago)

Its been tested and you get maximum size and yeild off of a Lowryder with 20 hours of light, and 4 hours of Dark a day.

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Re: Lowryder - cannabis rudealis hybrid [Re: ClammyJoe]
    #5386619 - 03/10/06 04:40 PM (18 years, 13 days ago)

wow, where did you find that out?


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