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blackout
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Cardboard casing.
#5280533 - 02/09/06 02:29 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Has anybody used cardboard for a casing layer with success. I am thinking a straight sheet with hole in it to allow myc pass up and air exchange. I may have a light layer of verm underneath. It should make for easy harvesting. A guy at mycotopia is putting cakes on moist cardboard with success but I have not seen it used as a normal casing layer with grains.
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Jaicen
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: blackout]
#5280754 - 02/09/06 05:49 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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As far as i'm aware it can be used for wood loving species such as Azuresence, but i'm not sure if it's suitable for cubes. I might be wrong though, so by all means give it a go. If nothing else it'll do a great job of keeping out contams.
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blackout
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: Jaicen]
#5280760 - 02/09/06 05:55 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cubensis will colonise cardboard for certain, it just may not use it as a substrate but as a casing layer for moisture. Easy to obtain and easy harvesting are the benefits, it will be selective for contams too like you say.
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hyphae
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: blackout]
#5280767 - 02/09/06 06:05 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cardboard has no microclimate for pinning, and the moisture content is not anywhere close to what is needed to support healthy fruitbody growth. But hey prove me wrong
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blackout
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: hyphae]
#5280788 - 02/09/06 06:22 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I get that tough corrugatted cardboard, the stuff with 2 flat sides and the sine wave cardboard in the centre I could take off the outer layer and have the corrugated bit exposed with lots of surface area. I would probably have regular casing underneath for moisture, the top just makes easy casing.
Please keep the negative comments coming, I want to know all the bad points before I try it. I may even try it on 1/2 of the casing and compare.
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LochRaven
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: blackout]
#5280798 - 02/09/06 06:32 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think it is worth a try. the only problem i see with it is if it does get contaminated you wont be able to see it
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_OttO_
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: blackout]
#5280873 - 02/09/06 07:56 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
blackout said: A guy at mycotopia is putting cakes on moist cardboard with success but I have not seen it used as a normal casing layer with grains.
Do you have a link?
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Rahz
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: LochRaven]
#5280903 - 02/09/06 08:17 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Using a razor to cut slits might be a good way to provide pinning routes.
That's quite an intresting idea, if you can keep it hydrated, you might have something. Cardboard has good wicking action, though finding a way to use it in a casing scenario might be tricky.
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thenewguy05
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: Rahz]
#5280910 - 02/09/06 08:21 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have seen this done with azures out size but not with a cubbie inside.
p.s. most of the people at mycotopia.net aren't exactly the best cultivators. i was talking to some guys about azure prints... they hated that sporeworks put them on paper. second they were soaking the paper to try and get them to germinated.
bad tekniques in my opinion.
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blackout
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: _OttO_]
#5280945 - 02/09/06 08:39 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
_OttO_ said:
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blackout said: A guy at mycotopia is putting cakes on moist cardboard with success but I have not seen it used as a normal casing layer with grains.
Do you have a link?
it is putting cakes on cardboard, not fruiting from the cardboard itself http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=6910
Thanks for the link kilgore, I saw agar mention "coffin casing" before. I have seen sheets of stuff in the garden centre for allowing plants to breathe.
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srgtm1a
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Re: Cardboard casing. *DELETED* *DELETED* [Re: blackout]
#5281007 - 02/09/06 09:13 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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blackout
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Re: Cardboard casing. [Re: srgtm1a]
#5281270 - 02/09/06 10:32 AM (18 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great pics, shame about the time frame. I am in 2 minds now whether to go cardboard or using open cell foam. Agar said the foam worked before when I asked and in the link kilgore gave he said it before that too.
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