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7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts
    #5258499 - 02/03/06 08:38 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

i had a casing of i think it was about 3 or four inches deep using 7 qts of rye berry spawn laid down onto abou 1/2 inch of soaked verm,. cased with coir verm soil. humidity stayed around 90% temp fluctuated between 68 and 80 but usually stayed around 70-75. lighting was on a 12/12 cycle with blue lights. air exchange was more than plenty, but now see.... i started fruiting conditions for 2 days, then there was a fire and the electricity was turned off. it was also exposed to mad crazy ammounts of smoke. i got it back into electricity. pinned like 3 days later, but they were all fucked up and all aborting. most of them had brown spots on them too. non got thicker than a pencil. so i removed all the shitty little pins and noticed the casing layter was overlaid in some spots. so i scratched up the soil and relaid it. i didnt have any access to new soil at the time.
so im wondering if maybe the smoke exposure fucked em up, ,maybe the disruption in the fruiting conditions cuz of no electricity? i have 2 check on them soon,


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #5258546 - 02/03/06 09:10 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

smoke is carbon monoxide,.. no room for oxygen. good luck on the second flush. hope it turns out better than the first

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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: thenewguy05]
    #5258603 - 02/03/06 09:38 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Good luck on your second flush. I know that shrooms need co2 to grow I don't really not the differance between dioxide and monoxide. I am sure that fire is the problem. I would dunk the caseing and hope for a better second flush.


Man I like your sig. It reminds me "good thing I am not a terroist so I don't have to worrie about the patriot act". America has never been a free country. Its Free'er country than most. The laws in america are made so that if I want to shoot smack or import herion I can so long as I don't get cought.


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: onetime]
    #5258681 - 02/03/06 10:13 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Man I like your sig. It reminds me "good thing I am not a terroist so I don't have to worrie about the patriot act". America has never been a free country. Its Free'er country than most. The laws in america are made so that if I want to shoot smack or import herion I can so long as I don't get cought.




Sorry I know this is offtopic but that's the kind of thought that lets them get away with taking away our rights. Just because there are worse places doesn't justify raping the constitution.

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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5258713 - 02/03/06 10:31 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

None of MY rights have been taken away becouse I am not a terroist.


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: Sinthetic]
    #5258714 - 02/03/06 10:31 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

More than likely it's due to a lack of light. Use white lights. Blue is for setting a mood in a room, not fruiting mushrooms.
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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5260091 - 02/03/06 05:24 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah There has been reports that I have read that state that if it has a "blue spectrum" they help with pinning. But this dosn't meant that the color that we as humans see will be blue. Ge makes some but the can be hard to find. Some thing like 400-500nm regain of the spectrem. I belive that these are the kind that should be used if your going to use any type of blue light mind you that the light will seem white to you imo its good to have these to light your room becouse they are softer on the eyes and do not seem yellow light most lights. http://pawsuppetsupply.com/pd_marineglo.cfm


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: onetime]
    #5263639 - 02/04/06 06:41 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

hmmm, i always thought they liked blue light the best from reading a semi-automated terrarium set up and the cubensis optimal growth parameters. i'll have to see how it goes. im guessing it was a combination of the smoke suffocating them a bit, the disruption of the lighting and FAE cycles, and not being able to mist them regularly. wish me luck


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #5264231 - 02/04/06 09:05 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

They do like blue light. But its blue on a spectrem that the human eyes can't see.




I think that humans see will still see the blue uv light as a white clear light. But this is all based on the work of paul stamets I belive. They are said to work better. So your blue light isnt doing anythiing unless its the type of light like in the link above. If it isnt ultra violet then and its just has blue glass or something then its just as good as any other light and should work just fine.Shrooms light effects them very little there is no need to worrie about what kind of light to use so long as its not halogon I belive those get way too hot.


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: onetime]
    #5264590 - 02/04/06 10:42 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Paul Stamets specifically mentions Durotest Daylite 65 flourescent 4' bulbs in The Mushroom Cultivator. Apparentally, they have the perfect light spectrum for growing mushrooms.

They can be purchased for $17.95 from naturallighting.com at http://www.naturallighting.com/show_product.cfm?&product_id=395

I have some, and they are very bright white with a tinge of blue (6500k).


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: gourmetgrower]
    #5265307 - 02/05/06 04:02 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

don't spend all that money on special blue lights, any advantage you might get is minimal. Use your run of the mill 100 watt bulb and work on your procedure


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Re: 7 qts of rye berries produced shitty skinny little aborts [Re: DirtMcgirt]
    #5266644 - 02/05/06 03:36 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

yes, it's true that they are expensive. I justify having them in that my oyster fruiting room is large and I need the light that 4' tubes put out.

For a terrerium setup, you could even go with white LEDs and some white plastic to diffuse the focused light. This would only draw a few Watts of power. You can even get white "christmas light" led strings. If you use a DC led strand and an external power supply, this will eliminate the safety problems associated with 115vac + high humidity.

An example:
http://www.inirgee.com/catalog/white_cle...bs__4760588.htm

A 100 watt bulb will draw 42 kilowatthours every month, assuming 14-hours per day of light (12-16 reccomended).
True, that's only $4.09 per month assuming $0.0973 per kilowatthour average in the US, but still... :p


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