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Fungicide paint in the lab
    #5222411 - 01/25/06 04:39 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

I recently painted the ceiling and walls of my lab with fungicide paint and today I read this in Growing gourmet and medicial mushrooms book:

" CAUTION: Don not use paint containing fungicides, particular any containing tributyl tin oxide, an extremely dangerous toxin to both humans and mushrooms.

What should I do now???
please help...


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5222460 - 01/25/06 04:55 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Strip the paint?


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #5222637 - 01/25/06 05:44 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

please dont tell me that :banghead:
is it really necesary? even if the paint doesnt have the tributyl tin oxide? why is bad? the fungicide is in the wall and ceiling I dont go to grow nothing over there...
does somebody know?


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5222686 - 01/25/06 05:55 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

I really have no idea, it was just a guessing suggestion. Hopefully you won't have to take measure that drastic. Good luck in finding the solution.


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5222702 - 01/25/06 05:57 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Why did you use anti-fungal paint in a place you plan on using for cultivation anyway?  :shrug:


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FungusMan]
    #5222810 - 01/25/06 06:23 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

I dont know...I suppose it would be good for no tricho spores in the walls...
it tooks me more than 16 hours of work to strip the old paint and to paint again the room :puke: it makes me really sick to thinkabout doing all the work again...
HELP WITH THIS!!! :penguindog:


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FungusMan]
    #5222884 - 01/25/06 06:38 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Spray a clear non-antifungal sealant over the top.


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5222896 - 01/25/06 06:44 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

You could use very thick mil black plastic & tightly wall paper the whole room with it. Overlap joints about 2 feet & secured with sheet-rock screws & plastic molding. A 100 ft X 10 ft roll is about $25.

If you are going to strip that TOXIC paint off, I would wear a breathing respirator.
Otherwise, you might poison - yourself.


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: agar]
    #5223035 - 01/25/06 07:16 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

english question: what is plastic molding?
is mil plastic a label or something?
why black plastic? I think with white I would have more light in the room isnt it?
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If you are going to strip that TOXIC paint off, I would wear a breathing respirator.
Otherwise, you might poison - yourself.


Thanks for the advice! i always wear a good mask with dealing with that kind of stuff...


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5223191 - 01/25/06 07:41 PM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Provide the context for that quote from stamets. Wasn't he talking about painting the bins you grow in? I would see no harm in painting your walls and ceiling.
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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #5225082 - 01/26/06 07:30 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Provide the context for that quote from stamets. Wasn't he talking about painting the bins you grow in? I would see no harm in painting your walls and ceiling.
RR




You can see it in page 478:
Interior surfaces not biodegradable. Interior surfaces such as the walls, countertops, shelving,etc. should not be able to support mold growht, Wood and Sheetrock should be avoided. The floor should be painted several times or overlaid with a chemically resistant cleanable mat. When using paint, use a non-mildewing enamel. (CAUTION: do not use paint containing fungicides, particular any containing tributyl tin oxide, an extremely dangerous toxin to both humans and mushrooms.)


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5225452 - 01/26/06 10:32 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

...try sealing over the top of the paint. Do you know what kind of fungicide is in the paint you used?


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5225479 - 01/26/06 10:42 AM (18 years, 5 days ago)

>>>>>english question: what is plastic molding?

Picture. http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50133140/Quarter_Round.jpg

Quarter round molding (plastic, rather than wood)


>>>>>is mil plastic a label or something?

Mil = thickness in milimeters

>>>>>>>why black plastic?

Black plastic is common & inexpensive

>>>>>I think with white I would have more light in the room isnt it?

I agree, white would be better, if you could find it.


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: agar]
    #5225908 - 01/26/06 12:48 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Personally, I would not be that concerned about it as long as there's no TBT in the paint.

The fungicides should stay suspended in the dry paint, they shouldn't be permeating the room.


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: Dragonaut]
    #5226231 - 01/26/06 02:10 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

WI_Shroomer_Skater said:
...try sealing over the top of the paint. Do you know what kind of fungicide is in the paint you used?




Sealing with what???
I will go to the shop tomorrow to look for what fungicide the paint I bought had...


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: agar]
    #5226236 - 01/26/06 02:11 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

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agar said:
>>>>>english question: what is plastic molding?

Picture. http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50133140/Quarter_Round.jpg

Quarter round molding (plastic, rather than wood)


>>>>>is mil plastic a label or something?

Mil = thickness in milimeters

>>>>>>>why black plastic?

Black plastic is common & inexpensive

>>>>>I think with white I would have more light in the room isnt it?

I agree, white would be better, if you could find it.




Many thanks Agar!


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: Sillicybin]
    #5226247 - 01/26/06 02:13 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

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Personally, I would not be that concerned about it as long as there's no TBT in the paint.

The fungicides should stay suspended in the dry paint, they shouldn't be permeating the room.




I just want to be totally sure to decided what to do... :rolleyes:


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5226275 - 01/26/06 02:23 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

So long as the existing paint is cured - dry.
I tend to agree that a good coat of any type exterior enamel sealant paint over the existing paint, should do the trick.


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: agar]
    #5242770 - 01/30/06 04:25 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

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agar said:
So long as the existing paint is cured - dry.
I tend to agree that a good coat of any type exterior enamel sealant paint over the existing paint, should do the trick.




why exterior?


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Re: Fungicide paint in the lab [Re: FGL]
    #5242883 - 01/30/06 04:57 PM (18 years, 1 day ago)

You'll be fine. Let the paint dry and it's OK. The microbe-guard that it has it similar to the one that caulk has (MicroBan for example). It doesn't radiate out the fungicide, it prevents it from dissolving the paint. You'll be OK.


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