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OfflineSirFrancisBacon
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Possible Abortion Ban in SD?
    #5212895 - 01/23/06 01:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Apparently in South Dakota they're going for a pro life touchdown. Will it be enough to take them to the roe v wade bowl?

http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail2817.cfm?Id=0,45410

01/22/2006
SD Legislature To Consider Abortion Ban

In the next six weeks, South Dakota lawmakers will decide whether to make abortion a crime.

A bill that would ban abortion in the state will be introduced within the next two days.

The bill will be called the Woman's Health and Life Protection Act. It will ban abortion, but won't prosecute a doctor who performs one to save a woman's life.

And the lawmaker who's introducing the bill says he thinks now is the right time to try and over-turn Roe vs Wade.

Rep. Roger Hunt says, "Abortion should be banned."

Those four words will likely lead to many others in the South Dakota House and Senate as lawmakers will decide whether to criminalize abortion in the state. The bill's supporters are using findings from a controversial abortion task force report recently given to the legislature.

Hunt says, "DNA testing now can establish the unborn child has a separate and distinct personality from the mother. We know a lot more about post-abortion harm to the mother."

The legislature debated a similar bill two years ago, but Governor Mike Rounds vetoed it because of concerns over some technicalities.

Hunt says, "We have made those corrections to the bill."

Sunday, Hunt and other anti-abortion advocates held an event promoting their legislation. They say now is the time to pass it, because other states are considering similar bills and because with new Chief Justice John Roberts, and possibly Samuel Alito, the US Supreme Court is changing.

Hunt says, "Two very solid, we feel, pro-life candidates. Again you never know but based on their testimony to the senate we feel they're good candidates."

Hunt says he thinks enough other lawmakers support the bill for it to pass, but he still thinks the decision will be a close one.

He says, "I learned a long time ago the only time you really count the votes is when you're taking the votes."

Hunt will also introduce two other bills this week. One is meant to ensure doctors explain the risks of an abortion to a woman is writing. The other deals with sex education and says school districts need to include principles in their curriculums dealing with abstinence and personal responsibilities.

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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: SirFrancisBacon]
    #5213008 - 01/23/06 02:20 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I don't get it. Why should a child have the right to life? I say any time you deem your kid to be a problem you should have the right to revoke their existence. Kill em all, fuck it.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: SirFrancisBacon]
    #5213055 - 01/23/06 02:35 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

This would definitly be a good thing.  :thumbup: :smile:

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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: Pirate_Patrick]
    #5213228 - 01/23/06 05:09 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbdown:


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: eligal]
    #5213295 - 01/23/06 05:46 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I'm no fan of abortion, but I do think it should be up to the mother. What if she was raped? She's the one who has to put up with all the trauma.

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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: Blek]
    #5213314 - 01/23/06 05:56 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

exactly


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: SirFrancisBacon]
    #5214115 - 01/23/06 01:45 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I'm a little confused. The article says the bill would make abortion a crime. But it also says doctors wouldn't be held responsible for performing abortions?

So SoDak is trying to not only ban abortion, they are trying to prosecute women who try to get them as opposed to prosecuting in-state doctors who perform illegal abortions?

Please tell me I'm understanding this wrong, so I don't have to go make myself vomit. If this was the case it would truly be a war on women out in South Dakota.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #5214129 - 01/23/06 01:52 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

What makes me want to vomit is the thought that so many people actually think it's ok to murder their children. Abortion doctors should kill the mothers(and fathers) while performing the procedure.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: daimyo]
    #5214189 - 01/23/06 02:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

uhhhhhh anyone else care to try to answer my question?


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: daimyo]
    #5214190 - 01/23/06 02:23 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I see these people with their signs protesting outside the clinic on my way to work. Here's a thought: If their so against abortion, why don't they volunteer to help out the children nobody wanted? Why not volunteer at an orphanage or hospital rather than standing on the sidewalk everyday holding a "right to life" sign.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: SirFrancisBacon]
    #5214216 - 01/23/06 02:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Im not really against abortion, but I dont see the point, when you can just put your child up for adoption.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: Blek]
    #5214218 - 01/23/06 02:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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I'm no fan of abortion, but I do think it should be up to the mother. What if she was raped? She's the one who has to put up with all the trauma.




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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: XUL]
    #5214245 - 01/23/06 02:44 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Im not really against abortion, but I dont see the point, when you can just put your child up for adoption.




Being pro-choice isn't being pro-abortion. It's about believing that other adults should be allowed to make difficult moral decisions for themselves.
I see what you mean, and if I ever got a woman pregnant, and the child was unwanted, I would ask her not to destroy it and opt instead for adoption.
But I don't think that my beliefs should be forced on others.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: SirFrancisBacon]
    #5214248 - 01/23/06 02:46 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

It'll be struck down by the SC anyways.

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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: Redstorm]
    #5214328 - 01/23/06 03:19 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Abortion doctors don't get enough credit for doing gods work. They perform the very necessary function of helping to control the population. There are already far too many human beings on this planet as it is and god is obviously to busy giving George Bush tips on running this country and Pat Robertson quality sound bites to do the job himself. The only reason these so called "Christians" are against abortion is that they need a large under privileged unwanted population to supply cannon fodder for the military to continue their crusade against the heathens. So next time you see your friendly neighborhood abortion doctor pat him on the back and say "keep up the good work"

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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: lowdominion]
    #5214756 - 01/23/06 05:28 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

@gluke bastid

It says "won't prosecute a doctor who performs one to save a woman's life." That is to say, if the mothers going to die during pregnancy and aborting causes her to live, its legal to abort.

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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: badchad]
    #5215414 - 01/23/06 08:11 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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badchad said:
If their so against abortion, why don't they volunteer to help out the children nobody wanted? Why not volunteer at an orphanage or hospital rather than standing on the sidewalk everyday holding a "right to life" sign.



Perhaps they feel irresponsible people should have to deal with their mistakes instead of passing the buck onto someone else.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: daimyo]
    #5215575 - 01/23/06 08:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I think abortion should only be legal if men are forced to have microchips inserted into their bodies that shock them when they don't pay child support, or aren't being good fathers. Forcing a person to raise a kid, is forcing a person to raise a kid.


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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: mycogirl]
    #5215586 - 01/23/06 08:56 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Well, if that's the case men should have a say in whether or not their mate gets an abortion.

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Re: Possible Abortion Ban in SD? [Re: daimyo]
    #5215617 - 01/23/06 09:03 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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badchad said:
If their so against abortion, why don't they volunteer to help out the children nobody wanted? Why not volunteer at an orphanage or hospital rather than standing on the sidewalk everyday holding a "right to life" sign.



Perhaps they feel irresponsible people should have to deal with their mistakes instead of passing the buck onto someone else.




Are you a southern Baptist preacher by any chance?

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