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Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms
    #5162575 - 01/10/06 12:48 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I was just wondering, even though its hard to say, which drug is more likely to result in a bad experience?

I know it depends upon the person, setting, state of mind etc. But bearing in mind these are 2 different substances which have similar but not identical effects, in your opinion which drug enduced experience is more prone to aggravate a bad trip?

I hear acid is more speedy than shrooms, which IMO will keep the mind racing and active rather than slowing getting bored, resulting in bad thoughts, negative mindset etc.

I have never tried acid, but i can get hold of some. I'm wondering weather or not to get some. I don't see myself in a bad state of mind nor depressed, but like so many of us, we have our issues. I just tend to focus on them when tripping (not always) which leads to a slippery trip.

I haven't tripped in a while so i don't know what to expect from acid. If i do trip, i will be in a much better setting than other trips i have had (hopefully private premises, with a stash of quality weed and a few E's on hand)

So, in your opinion, which substance would you say in more likely to generate an "issue".

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #5162582 - 01/10/06 12:49 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Bad experiences depend so much more on the person than the drug.

It's the mind, the set, and the setting - not the chemical.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5162591 - 01/10/06 12:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

THAT SAID,

I have never come anywhere close while on acid to the dark places I've touched in the midst of shroom trips. Acid makes me feel like I'm swimming amongst everything, 'shrooms make me feel like I'm drowning in everything.


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Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake.

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #5162593 - 01/10/06 12:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I've never had a bad acid trip, and only one bad shroom trip (total ego loss until my friend came by and cheered me up). But I can't say for sure, since I've only eaten acid 4 times and I've tripped on mushrooms probably around 100 times now.


I know more people who have had bad acid trips then I know people who have had bad mushroom trips though. At least that admit to it.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #5162601 - 01/10/06 12:51 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

me along with many of my friends say that shrooms can give you more of a mental craziness... but i love both more than i love jesus


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: danlennon3]
    #5162614 - 01/10/06 12:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

:jesus:

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #5162634 - 01/10/06 01:01 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Bad experiences depend so much more on the person than the drug.

It's the mind, the set, and the setting - not the chemical.




I disagree somewhat, set and setting can play a factor but for me, it's never
mattered, tripping and chatting with cops can be fun, tripping while you wait
to see if the cop is going to charge you with criminal tresspass isnt that
unpleasant, running through the woods, jumping fences, through peoples back
yards past the dogs and back to your house to escape the cops can be an exciting
evening...getting into a fight wit soe prick at 688 or the metroplex while your
on 8 hits isnt pleasant but it's not bad trip material unless you allow it to be

yuo have total control over how your trip goes, you just need the mindset to
know that it's just a drug, not a life changing experience

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5162643 - 01/10/06 01:03 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Shrooms > Acid IMO

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mcdoopy]
    #5162684 - 01/10/06 01:14 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I've had a few bad trips on acid, not bad in the sense that I was fearing for my life or anything, but bad in the sense that I knew that I couldn't carry on a coherent conversation with anyone even if i had too and that I could walk normally even with total concentration....

but, I've also eaten alot more acid (quantity wise) in one sitting then I ever have with mushrooms. I think that has more to do with it than anything else.

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #5162798 - 01/10/06 01:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Acid always puts me in a positive mindset, I've tripped HARD on acid and lost touch with reality completley, but it in no way compares to the heart-in-your-throat, sweaty hands kind of fear that I've gotten from mushrooms.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #6353880 - 12/10/06 12:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

In my experience, acid tends to have me bugging out a hell of alot more than shrooms, especially if i'm alone. As far as a "bad trip" goes, I've had more than a few with acid. My suggestion is to be with a friend while tripping. Or if you choose to be alone I'de suggest taking an E pill with the acid, in my experience it practically eliminated the paranoa, and all around boosted the trip beyond belief. Personally, I'de rather just eat a quarter to a half ounce of shrooms ;p But acid is great too :wink:

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #6353915 - 12/10/06 12:18 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

i think it could go either way.

i personally experience much more fear with mushrooms, even small amounts, than acid. i think i have fear associated with mushrooms, so they can get to me, where as acid, no matter how large the dose, i have absolutely no worry. it wigs me out that i can barf from shrooms pretty easily as well, as it is about the last thing i like to do whilst tripping. just keep an open mind, and try and keep fear out of the equation.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #6354153 - 12/10/06 01:44 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

0 out of ~20 acid trips were bad
5 out of ~150 mushroom trips were bad

... And I wonder why I dont do either anymore?!  :blush:

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: angryshroom]
    #6354167 - 12/10/06 01:49 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Shit, Im totally the opposite. Acid really freaks me out, but Ive never had a bad trip on shrooms. Shrooms are always extremely positive and happy experiences.

I guess it totally depends on the person.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Jadian]
    #6354205 - 12/10/06 02:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Jadian said:
I've never had a bad acid trip, and only one bad shroom trip (total ego loss until my friend came by and cheered me up).  But I can't say for sure, since I've only eaten acid 4 times and I've tripped on mushrooms probably around 100 times now.


I know more people who have had bad acid trips then I know people who have had bad mushroom trips though.  At least that admit to it.




Intersting, in the past year I'd say it's the opposite of when I first posted in this post (YES A YEAR AGO, damn old post bumpers).

Then again all the acid I've done in the past year has been with folks who I knew were just fine to handle it :grin:

I'm posting from the exact same spot I posted from on 1/10/06 too, which considering my life is a thing of amazement.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #6354243 - 12/10/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Bad experiences depend so much more on the person than the drug.

It's the mind, the set, and the setting - not the chemical.



SO true. However, I have had more out of control trips that have led to irrational, chaotic thought on lsd, than on mushrooms. Anything more than 6 hits of blotter will do it. I have taken 10 strips that have done the oo-ee motherfucker to me. I once took a 10 strip with some friends that did the same and listened to Obituary and took turns lying in front of a strobe light, watching little hallucinations of civilizations being born and decaying on the carpet. We also watched Natural Born Killers later that night, which is an excellent movie to watch while tripping. It is like a completely different flick when you are sober, as compared to when on hallucinogens. I also saw my friend's cat give birth to 4 kittens towards the end of the trip.:whoa: That was crazy to watch.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: blissedout]
    #6354277 - 12/10/06 02:29 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I can imagine seeing kittens being born would be quite amazing.  Shit I remember a VCR being amazing, kittens being born must be in a whole different ballpark :tongue:


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Jadian]
    #6355899 - 12/10/06 09:35 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I've freaked out real hard on both acid and DOI, while I've never freaked out on mushrooms.

But I was tripping way harder on the acid, and was in a very uncomfortable environment with the DOI.

I've also had the best night of my life HANDS DOWN on acid. With that in mind I'd say it's not the chemical, it's your set and setting.


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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #6356222 - 12/10/06 11:01 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

with my limited experience acid is easier to handle than shrooms. however i feel this is completely based on set , setting, and dose.

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Re: Bad Trip Ratio Acid vs Shrooms [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #6356240 - 12/10/06 11:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Ive had more fun on LSD then shrooms. I hate the shitty comeup on shrooms as well. I love the comeup, and peak and the whole trip on LSD, compared to mushrooms.

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