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OfflineKidgardFromSRQ
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Adding to LC?
    #5144786 - 01/05/06 08:56 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Nitrogen content makes the mushrooms more potent; correct? Well, if thats the case, if I added something(if there is anything?) to my LC that was high on nitrogen content; would that increase initial potency?


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5144789 - 01/05/06 08:57 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds amazing. I think you should try it and give us a trip report.


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: stoner4life]
    #5144799 - 01/05/06 08:59 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

well, i would but idk what to add and how much and the specifics and whether its been tested or not. i cant find anything on search.


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5144804 - 01/05/06 09:00 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I would like to help but Im not that knowledgable yet. Hopefully an old hand will come along and help.


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: stoner4life]
    #5144834 - 01/05/06 09:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

im sure this questions been asked, i probably just searched it wrong; the whole entire when to put the + and how to get more specific results throws me off even though its explained.


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5144872 - 01/05/06 09:17 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

hmm, a teaspoon of coffee added to a corn syrup LC might not be too dark. Coffee has lots of nitrogen.

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5144889 - 01/05/06 09:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not really sure but I don't think it would do what you want .

It may make the actual LC a little stronger , but once you use your LC to inoculate something , the benefits of the added nitrogen would be diluted so much you probably wouldn't notice a thing . It would probably be better to add the supplement to the actual substrate .

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: HippieChick]
    #5144909 - 01/05/06 09:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm gonna have to agree with HC on that one.


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: FooMan]
    #5144913 - 01/05/06 09:30 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Has anyone tried adding Light Malt or dextrose to substrate then?
(Seems like the next logical question lol)

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: Jaeger]
    #5145145 - 01/05/06 10:25 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

well, the next lc ill do an experiment. but if i added coffee, what should i use, instant or beans w/ or w/o shells. and would the caffiene make a difference in mushroom content? and if it did, would it not be noticeable on a macroscopic level?


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: KidgardFromSRQ]
    #5145447 - 01/05/06 11:49 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You could use a small ammount of the liquid. Or, you could use spent coffee grounds, if you don't mind grounds at the bottom of the jar. Fresh coffee grounds or beans would probably be too much. At any rate, the best reason to do something like that would be to create a more potent innoculant, by either creating a higher percentage of mycelium, or by making the mycelium healthier. I'm not sure how much difference it would make, if any, but go for it... and let us know how it went.

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: Rahz]
    #5146074 - 01/06/06 08:38 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I made a LC from glucose with a pinch of dried blood, worked OK, not great.

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: blackout]
    #5146115 - 01/06/06 09:06 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

i have heard of someone soaking, and steeping their granes in a Nitrogen rich liquid fertilizer... this is one way i would only think of increasing the potentcy, you could just case the grains....

i don't see why people just don't case WBS anyway... i get awesome flushes... full. each time, with little contam issues. just dunk a casing after each flush to rehydrate.

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5146290 - 01/06/06 10:35 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

lately i see too much concern in raising mushroom's potency adding things here and there... i think i just preffer the natural way i mean if u want more potent shrooms, grow em on poo, grow outside, go hunting or just eat more! I mean if u are growing them u can easily get more anytime, why do u need MORE and MORE potent shrooms... let them be, enjoy them and stop trying to tweak them (they can tweak you). Pesonally i've tripped lots and really never had a time when wished i had more potent shrooms but if u do then good luck.  :mushroom2:


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: AngeloWish]
    #5146456 - 01/06/06 11:29 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I think the obsession with potency stems from the need for "bragging rights". I say this because when my "friend" used to grow smoke, it was his goal to have the best smoke on the block. It does feel good to have a friend comment on how potent your grow was, and it makes you want to attempt to top your own personal best. It makes you try new approaches, and keeps the experience fresh and exciting. But maybe that's just me. :thumbup:


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: Premedman1]
    #5146699 - 01/06/06 12:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Part of it's just facination with the hobby. I'm hitting a point where I really need to take a step back and chill. I have 24 jars of WBS colonizing, and that will translate into about 25 gallons of substrate, which translates into... I don't know several pounds dry?

Why do I need that many shrooms? I'm not dealing... I'll have to find some kind of long term storage I'm happy with, and even then I'll be giving a lot away. I've considered passing mono-buckets out to my friends, but that would give my secret away. But I won't need to grow for a year or two anyway...

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: Rahz]
    #5146892 - 01/06/06 01:05 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You can figure that 100% B/E is 25% of the wet substrate weight.

So, if a tray contains 10 lbs of moist substrate, and if you get 100% B/E, you will get 2.5 lbs wet weight. Which will dry down to 1/10th of that as dry weight (about 4 oz +/- a fraction).

However, once you get the hang of things, 250 to 300% B/E is VERY POSSIBLE.


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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: Oatman2000]
    #5146896 - 01/06/06 01:06 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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i have heard of someone soaking, and steeping their granes in a Nitrogen rich liquid fertilizer... this is one way i would only think of increasing the potentcy, you could just case the grains....





Just chuck in a tablespoon or two of coffee granules to the water you soak your grains in - or a weak solution of organic based liquid fertiliser like this one -



or both. Or you can use a poo tea mixture - but assuming you can make a poo tea, you would be spawning to poo anyway.

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i don't see why people just don't case WBS anyway... i get awesome flushes... full. each time, with little contam issues. just dunk a casing after each flush to rehydrate.

- Cased WBS (also potentcy is great!)




I agree somewhat - it is easy to do and works just fine - ths is a WBS only casing -



These were as potent as anything else - you would have to be a *very* experienced tripper to feel any dfference to poo grown ones.

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: Rahz]
    #5146964 - 01/06/06 01:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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I've considered passing mono-buckets out to my friends, but that would give my secret away.
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Be very careful who you distribute the growing rights to - dont make it too easy for people who wouldnt actually care to put all the effort to do it themselves in the first place - chances are, they wouldnt have put as much effort into not getting caught either.

I gave one of these to a freind, they grew themselves a few and it went fine until they left a little bag of them in the glovebox of their car and forgot about them.

He got pulled over for speeding and they asked if there was anything suspicious in the car - that immediately reminded him of the shrooms and he confessed.

He had to get strip searched, stay in jail until 3AM (and had to work the next day), had to go to court. He was charged and now has a criminal record.

The lesson: Be very very careful about 'throwing' these around to your mates....

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Re: Adding to LC? [Re: agar]
    #5147245 - 01/06/06 02:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Gotcha. But what is B/E?  :frown:

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