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SouthPArk
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How Important is Pasteurization for Straw???
#5133106 - 01/02/06 09:12 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ive Done many many Casings with h/poo and not once pasteurized anything and had 100% Great Success!!
So How much Different would not Pasteurizing Straw then to h/poo???
All I do is Submerge the h/poo in Boiling water and let it soak for about half an hour then just strain.....cool and mix....
I was Told if I didnt pasteurize h/poo it would create a bacteria Bloom but yet nothing happened so just curious if it's truley a MUST or it can be skipped....
Only Reason I ask is MY Stove aint working so Great right now so IF I were to Get my Plug in Kettle and Boil Water would it almost have sumsorta effect or it's a waste of time???
Sorry for such a Dumb question but maybe's somebody's already tried this and For sure it wont work or their's a Chance!!!
Thnx Guyz and once again...mind the Stooopid Question!
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Re: How Important is Pasteurization for Straw??? [Re: SouthPArk]
#5133173 - 01/02/06 09:31 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow i'm interested... imagine all those wasted pasturizations. My opinion is that it's a very important step but that's just the way it seemed to me until today and maybe still, have to see what other people point out.
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SouthPArk
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Re: How Important is Pasteurization for Straw??? [Re: Erickson]
#5133210 - 01/02/06 09:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im not sure about Straw but for h/poo it's honestly a Waste of Time and Effort!!!
All you need is good Aged h/poo that's been leeched and you can even Soak it in Luke Warm water and then strain and get the right texture and then just mix with your Grains and wallah!!
IVe never had a problem with contams either so im kinda curious as to the outcome of Straw without...
But for h/poo Try it next run with a small batch and you'll be shocked!
just make sure it's not Fresh Shit
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X24
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Re: How Important is Pasteurization for Straw??? [Re: SouthPArk]
#5133246 - 01/02/06 09:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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my expirience is that straw contams alot. i think the poo has alotta helpful friendly germs that keep it good. but the straw has alotta bad meany germs that like to party. also ive been reading about nonsterile cultivation and straw probly isnt really WHAT THE MUSHROOM WANTS, which according to my studies lately is the problem. were not giving the mushroom what it wants, instead we give it what we think it will grow best on... we are not always right. another theory ive been debating in my head is this. a mushroom has no greenstuff to make it digest nutrients. but a horses stomach digests straw halfway then shits it out. thus giving the mushroom a digested product that it can much more easily process and make its strong hold against contams. i could be wrong.
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SouthPArk
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Re: How Important is Pasteurization for Straw??? [Re: X24]
#5133259 - 01/02/06 09:55 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sounds About Right !!
Thnx for your feedback!!
Anybody Else got anything to add???
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Tsinaglou
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Re: How Important is Pasteurization for Straw??? [Re: SouthPArk]
#5136216 - 01/03/06 07:26 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
SouthPArk said: Ive Done many many Casings with h/poo and not once pasteurized anything and had 100% Great Success!!
All I do is Submerge the h/poo in Boiling water and let it soak for about half an hour then just strain.....cool and mix....
This is pretty close to the recommendations for pasteurization. You start with higher temp water, but the hpoo must cool it down some. And you leave it for a shorter time, but basically it's a pasteurization.
There are various methods for chemical pasteurization of straw using h2o2, chlorine bleach or caustic lime. I haven't tried any of them. Good luck.
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Re: How Important is Pasteurization for Straw??? [Re: Tsinaglou]
#5136251 - 01/03/06 07:34 PM (18 years, 2 months ago) |
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Horse manure must be pasteurized. After reading of people skipping that step, I tried it on several projects. 100% of them failed due to trichoderma. Some folks may live in an area such as a desert with a very low contaminat spore counts, but the rest of us will have to pasteurize straw and manure. Don't cut corners. RR
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