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Offlineph30n1x
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anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot?
    #5124872 - 12/31/05 12:15 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

hey gang, i was wondering if anyone out there has been experiencing any adverse health effects from smoking pot.  Im more interested in the long-term adverse effects but any responce is appreciated. Also, state some specifics to your pot habbits such as how frequently you smoke it etc. Thanks in advance :thumbup:

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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #5125121 - 12/31/05 01:56 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Well when I was young me and a few friends would buy maybe an ounce or so, and be able to smoke the whole thing in one sitting...and just laugh. That kinda dwindled down. Then the panic attacks came on. Whenever Ide get real high my heart would beat really fast, and Ide get a cold sweat. Ide start freaking out and have passed out a few times because of the panic. I used to get very scared of this...thinking shock was very possible.

This has been going on for years now, and Im completely fine. Ive come to the conclusion I bring it on myself. In all honesty...it doesnt really matter how high I get...even to the point of passing out (which terrifies me). In the end everything is going to be back to normal. So I try not to freak out and fight it...its not gonna help at all. Just ride it out. At least try and be happy and make the best with it.

Actually these days I dont really get that high anymore. I smoke a puff or two before bed where I can lay and watch TV, and just feel really comfortable. Maybe a puff or two in the day...if I feel like it. Sometimes when I play music. It seems I used to force it on myself. Almost forcing myself to try and like it. Now Im to the point where if I dont want to smoke more than a hit or two...or even smoke at all, I just wont.

I dont like being incredibly stoned anyway...too uncomfortable.

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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #5125274 - 12/31/05 05:40 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Cannabis gave me several 100 near heart attacks (angina pectoris) during the first half-hours of toking up. Resting heartrate 90, stoned 120.
But hey, it's harmless right?
So I smoked on.

Then on December 27 2002 cannabis gave me a heart attack. ICU, brink of death, a handful of pharms every day for the rest of my life..

It turned out I have this rare genetic heart condition which makes cannabis for me more ischemic than for others, meaning it increases cardiac oxygen demand more than a jog does.

If your heart starts to asphyxiate you get the chest pains of Angina Pectoris, if it does so to the point of heart muscle dying off you've got a heart attack.

So the harmless little weed gave me a fullblown heart attack and several hundred near misses.
There's no such thing as a harmless drug.


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Asante]
    #5125285 - 12/31/05 05:58 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Karma?


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #5125298 - 12/31/05 06:10 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

My dad quit smoking pot because of the accelerated heart rate.

I tend to have sinus congestion and pot aggravates that for me.


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Swami]
    #5125303 - 12/31/05 06:15 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Karma?




Bad taste?


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Asante]
    #5125320 - 12/31/05 06:31 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

You only believe in karma for others but not for you? Please explain the difference.


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Swami]
    #5125324 - 12/31/05 06:34 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think it is karma if one chooses to stick his hand on a hotplate and gets burned, do you?


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Booby]
    #5125330 - 12/31/05 06:45 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

web page
Those who score highest on the anger scale had almost a doubled risk of heart attacks compared to those with the lowest anger scores.

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A Johns Hopkins Medical School study, 48 years in the making, confirms that young men who reacted to stress with anger were three times more likely to suffer from CHD before the age of 55 than their peers who said they let stressful situations roll off their backs.

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"If you?re mad at the world and you have a family history of heart disease, you?re loading the bullets in the gun and pulling the trigger at an early age without realizing it," says Kiffer. "People with a strong family history need to recognize that anger can be a strong risk factor. In fact, some research has shown that anger can be just as much of a risk factor for heart disease as smoking, obesity and lack of exercise."


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Swami]
    #5125335 - 12/31/05 06:52 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

That's odd; I don't recall a single instance of my father losing his cool.

Has anyone here witnessed Wiccan_Seeker losing his cool?


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Booby]
    #5125338 - 12/31/05 06:54 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Surely you are joking.


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Swami]
    #5125343 - 12/31/05 06:58 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

There was an instance of chilli-pepper hemorrhoid cream...


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #5125418 - 12/31/05 07:51 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, no.

If I would have never started smoking pot, I would have undoubtedly been put on anti-nausea medications and a very strict dietary regiment with more and more pills to make me able to eat normally. The way I was depressed before smoking herb would have landed me several antidepressants as well...that is the route my parents would have forced me to take, and they were very close to doing it. They were amazed at how I became *more* active, *more* social, and more outgoing in general. They were shocked years later when they learned about my marijuana and psychedelic usage that had occured right in their own house. They respect my knowledge now and trust me to be me.

There is no way to determine what could have happened...but I'm satisfied where I'm at in life now and with my habits and health. I have no prexisiting conditions that marijuana will interfere with and I am not overweight. I smoke only organic, flushed marijuana and do not smoke ridiculous amounts to get high...a quarter or half bowl of what I smoke gets me stoned, more creative, and able to eat for hours. I am not an 'addict'...I have quit smoking for many several month breaks, weeks, and days with no significant adverse effects. I do not waste money on pot and I maintain exemplary grades at a great university and work year around. I exercise every other day. Yes...harmless...when used intelligently.


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Swami]
    #5125483 - 12/31/05 08:47 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Swami, what is wrong with you?

Because if you're in a thread thats about adverse marijuana effects, someone mentions serious heart complaints and you react with suggesting it is karma and point to links about excessive anger causing heart complaints then something surely is wrong.

One of the first things that comes to mind is derailing a thread. Swami, I hereby urgently request that you do not derail this thread any further.

And while you're at it stop trying to diagnose me - get a diagnosis of your own instead.


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Swami]
    #5125485 - 12/31/05 08:51 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Swami, could you share a response to the actual topic? I'd be interested to read it...


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Organic]
    #5125699 - 12/31/05 10:57 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

i'd like to hear more about swami's opinion on karma. what was swami in a former life to afford him his current destructive personality, for example? a boil on the anus of a serial killer, perhaps? this thread derailing deserves a comment at least, as apologies are not in swami's arsenal.

weed causes lots of people harm, but imo the benefits outweigh the risks, of society as a whole.


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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: shirley knott]
    #5125703 - 12/31/05 11:01 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

shirley knott said:
i'd like to hear more about swami's opinion on karma. what was swami in a former life to afford him his current destructive personality, for example? a boil on the anus of a serial killer, perhaps?




:lol:

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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Organic]
    #5125724 - 12/31/05 11:10 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

But Wiccan_Seeker, wouldnt you say that those problems would only have existed because of your heart condition. Well my resting heart rate is about 50-60 bpm. Latly i have been toking wile walking around (or stumbling around) outside in a nature-like setting. Sometimes at a faster pace than a mear stroll. So when i toke my heart rate goes up to about 110. But then when i go inside after i finish toking and listen to music, my heart rate goes down to like 80-90ish, probably a bit less. If i were just to sit down in a nice environment and toke my heart rate will probably go up to 80. Where as your stoned heart rate is 110. So i gather that the weed did trigger the heart attacks, but only because of your underlying heart condition.

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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: Organic]
    #5125761 - 12/31/05 11:28 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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Organic said:
Honestly, no.

If I would have never started smoking pot, I would have undoubtedly been put on anti-nausea medications and a very strict dietary regiment with more and more pills to make me able to eat normally. The way I was depressed before smoking herb would have landed me several antidepressants as well...that is the route my parents would have forced me to take, and they were very close to doing it. They were amazed at how I became *more* active, *more* social, and more outgoing in general. They were shocked years later when they learned about my marijuana and psychedelic usage that had occured right in their own house. They respect my knowledge now and trust me to be me.

There is no way to determine what could have happened...but I'm satisfied where I'm at in life now and with my habits and health. I have no prexisiting conditions that marijuana will interfere with and I am not overweight. I smoke only organic, flushed marijuana and do not smoke ridiculous amounts to get high...a quarter or half bowl of what I smoke gets me stoned, more creative, and able to eat for hours. I am not an 'addict'...I have quit smoking for many several month breaks, weeks, and days with no significant adverse effects. I do not waste money on pot and I maintain exemplary grades at a great university and work year around. I exercise every other day. Yes...harmless...when used intelligently.



:thumbup: Very intelligent way of using mother natures finest herb.  I am somewhat similar in weed habits as you are. I smoke about half a bowl every other weekend or so.  And i have taken breaks for a few months for sports and what not. Latly i havn't been working out, but i will start up again very soon.  Likewise, I am not overweight.  Also, my family has a history of strong hearts and good lungs also.  I think, for any drug, moderation is the key. 
Im about to go to a government mule concert in NY for NYE, im going to smoke a gram (very large portion for me) and then stop until i see phil lesh & friends in febuary.  Then maybe stop again until i see the allman brothers in late march.  yeah...sounds like a solid plan heh. Im babbling, thanks for all the output guys and Wiccan_Seeker; good luck with your condition, im sure thing will turn out for the best. peace :mushroom2:

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Re: anyone had/have adverse health effects from smoking pot? [Re: ph30n1x]
    #5125906 - 12/31/05 12:21 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I have had breathing problems from smoking about an eigth of really good weed every day.


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