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mono tub rye poo
    #5092597 - 12/22/05 04:03 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I'm going to try a 50 GAL. bin as a MONO tub, following Wronguy's DOUBLE tub tech. He uses "19 qt minimum to 64 qt maximum" bin. A 50 Gal. bin is 200 qts. does anyone see a problem with this?

Also....How can i measure the amount of Rye Berrie's I'll need to inoculate for a 50 gal. bin?

The plan is Z-Strain-->LC/Karo-->Rye Berry's-->TiT Incubation-->Hpoo-->Casing (http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1597724/an/0/page/0)

This is my first time, and as you see I'm improvising a little, so I'm just looking to make sure this huge tub isn't going to throw anything off.

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #5092634 - 12/22/05 04:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I would fill the tub with water to the level you want the substrate, then measure out what you put in. Say 20 litres. Say you are spawning 1:4 grain:poo by volume, this means you have 5 parts, one of which is grain, so you want 4 litres of wet grains. Thats about 1-1.5kg of dry grain.

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: blackout]
    #5092645 - 12/22/05 04:36 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

all i can tell u is.... make sure u are careful and u kno what ure doing first! otherwise u may end up very disappointed


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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: lordoftheshroomz]
    #5092779 - 12/22/05 05:50 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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lordoftheshroomz said:
all i can tell u is.... make sure u are careful and u kno what ure doing first! otherwise u may end up very disappointed




Is there anything in particular youre thinking of? If so i would be greatful to hear what =))).

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #5092882 - 12/22/05 06:57 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I use 124 quart tubs as a mono tub. The main problem you will have is keeping the humidity up in such a large area without the casing layer drying out. Thats why he uses the 64 quart max. You will just have to spray in the tub for humidity.


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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #5092900 - 12/22/05 07:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Is there anything in particular youre thinking of? If so i would be greatful to hear what =))).



I think it is just general, like I wouldnt recommend that for a first grow, it would be disappointing to have to toss that much stuff

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: blackout]
    #5093834 - 12/22/05 01:13 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I see....maybe i'm getting a little over anxious? lol.

I have a bunch of 20-gal tubs, and 2 are already made into a DT setup. Perhaps i should just go back to plan A =). And maybe do a 20-gal MONO tup along with it.

Think 80qtZ is close enough?

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #5093882 - 12/22/05 01:27 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Psychoslut hit the nail on the head. The larger the tub, the harder it is to maintain humidity. Remember, the tub size doubles. So if you are using a 200 quart tub, as you stated, you now have 400 quarts of air space to humidify. Actually about 10% less due to substrate depth. Expecting the substrate to humidify that much space may be a little much.

I personally have never tried a tub that large. The largest tub I ever tried was a 132 quart. It failed miserably because my substrate continually dried out. Someone around here may have had luck, but I don't think it's the norm.

You don't need a huge tub to get huge yields. I easily pull 7-8 dried ounces using a small 19 quart tub. This amount is over 4-5 flushes, but that's still quite a bit. My largest, most successful grow, was my Puerto Ricans done in a 33 gallon mono-tub. My first flush was 6 pounds wet. When all flushes had concluded I yielded 1.3 pounds dry. A mono-tub uses the same principal as the double tubs, but with one instead of two. The key to a mono-tub success is having enough space between the top holes and bottoms holes to prevent air stagnation.

Start small. Master the double/single tub grows and then you can move on to bigger grows. Good luck.

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: Wronguy]
    #5093904 - 12/22/05 01:32 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Those are pretty impressive amounts Wronguy. I have Z-Strain on the way, I'll be a very happy man if I get anywhere near that much on my first grow. lol.

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #5093908 - 12/22/05 01:33 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Baby steps man...there's a little more to growing than the TEKs explain.  It takes some first hand experience and refinement of YOUR OWN personal technique.  The TEKs are a guideline for something that ultimately will be personalized for you.  Also, trust me on this cause I'm new to all this as well, a lot of the fine folks on this forum are very experienced due to a huge amount of trial and error.  Plus, they make it look easy  :wink:

I'd start a little smaller, maybe your 20gal DT, or hell, the PF tek is a good way to go if this is your first time.

I'm not trying to preach, just giving you my opinion from one newb to the other.  BTW I'm experimenting with a smaller mono tub using straw and BRF as spawn.  Its working so far, got some colonization going on and everything  :thumbup:

Best of Luck whatever you decide


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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #5093921 - 12/22/05 01:36 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

btw...thx for the input everyone, you may have just save me from certain misery

This is way off topic...but while i was typing this post a health food store just called me back. They said i could order 20pounds of Rye Berrie's for $14. I am a happy man =)

Edited by TheStudent (12/22/05 01:37 PM)

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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #5093936 - 12/22/05 01:41 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Damn, good deal!


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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: diablovt1125]
    #5094220 - 12/22/05 02:45 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Plus, they make it look easy




its not hard to make it look easy because it is easy!


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Re: mono tub rye poo [Re: TheStudent]
    #10800578 - 08/04/09 06:26 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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