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speeding the time from injection to friuts
    #5084348 - 12/20/05 12:14 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

okay the hting with growing mushies is usually at the quickest you can go from spores to shrooms in 3 weeks or so.

this is just too damn long. most of the time in colonisation in the half pinter's which are equivelent to 8 ounces.

What if one was to decrease the volume of the substrate and use the same amount of spores. im talking about going down to 2 or 4 ounce containers of substrate.

this could be accomplished by adding an extra layer of properly moistned verm to the bottom of the jar before adding the BRF mix, or by using smaller jars all togeather.

What do you think would be the best route of action for this??


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5084362 - 12/20/05 12:19 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

LC of course

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5084372 - 12/20/05 12:22 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Also three weeks is nothing...once you get started on a cycle...then it's constant harvest...depending...of course

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5084379 - 12/20/05 12:25 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

a liquid culture would probably take longer than the small substrate. i dont want a whole bunch of mushies just enough for me, if i can find someone to host my grow, as im not doin it at my place.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5084392 - 12/20/05 12:31 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

lc takes (well took me) 3 days to colonize the lc jar usualy takes between 4-5 days so tht should be almost the same amnt of time


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #5084395 - 12/20/05 12:32 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

wait are you fruiting form the LC jar or usig it as a spawn for another substrate???


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5084400 - 12/20/05 12:33 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yes...but once you have the LC in hand it can take days off the incubation period.

Look at this after less then a week




One syringe could last you a "life" time, if prepared correctly

No need for bulk growing...small but efficient

starting with spores is MUCH slower then a small LC...to get the process started.


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5084415 - 12/20/05 12:39 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

What's the rush??????


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Tippinthru]
    #5084425 - 12/20/05 12:41 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

the only reason i dont grow is beacuse i do alot of borderline illegal things and dont want to do anything blatantly illegal even in my own home for fear of getting busted.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5084436 - 12/20/05 12:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5084451 - 12/20/05 12:46 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

back in the day i tried using a whole bunch of sauce cups, 1 ounce ones, like what oyu get sides of bbq sauce in when you order to go.

never got the mixture to work, mostly beacause i couldnt sterilise because they were plastic and flimsy.


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5084608 - 12/20/05 01:49 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

What you could do is take 1/2 pint jars and fill them only halfway with substrate, and then they will colonize twice as fast, and you can take the fully colonized half-cakes and use them for a casing. In this case you would need twice as many jars. But figure this. You could fully fill 4 jars and wait twice as long as filling 8 jars halfway, which is equivelant to 4 jars. Maybe it could work that way.


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5084618 - 12/20/05 01:53 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

IMO trying to force things to happen too fast really is just asking for trouble.

If you use LC on grain you can get a harvest fruited in 4 weeks...that's still pretty darn fast.


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: musher_420]
    #5084643 - 12/20/05 02:16 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Leave your grains a bit dry and inject lots of LC, these jars are on day 1 and day 3


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: blackout]
    #5084653 - 12/20/05 02:28 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

what's up with the Rye...ones darker then the other?


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Snaggletooth]
    #5084724 - 12/20/05 03:27 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

one has blood added to it, click on microwave growlog in my signature for more info

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: blackout]
    #5084847 - 12/20/05 05:36 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Those rye berries are PLUMP, blackout! What'dya do to them?!


Edit: Nevermind, that's wheat. Still very plump though. At the store, wheat berries looked more like rye. By the inflation of those berries it seems like wheat can hold alot of water, is this true?

Edited by Hoss (12/20/05 05:38 AM)

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Hoss]
    #5084963 - 12/20/05 06:48 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

No, they hold more or less the same as rye, they should be treated the same as rye. Some had exploded but I think it is the perspective/lens angle in the photo making them look big, the jars are about 600ml, somebody else commented that the jars looked huge.

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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: ZippoZ]
    #5084980 - 12/20/05 07:03 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

What is borderline illegal?

either it will get you sent to jail or it wont. How can something be borderline illegal?


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Re: speeding the time from injection to friuts [Re: Psychoslut]
    #5085164 - 12/20/05 08:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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What is borderline illegal?

either it will get you sent to jail or it wont. How can something be borderline illegal?




Ask the guys working at your local head shop... :wink:

I have a couple friends that work at one. They say the police like to stop by plain clothes a lot and try to catch them slipping up on grey area stuff like bongs, nitrous, vapes, papers... whatever could be construed as paraphenalia basically. They've both been followed home by police on numerous occasions. Personally, I don't do anything illegal around them unless we're out somewhere in the middle of the desert, positive that no one bothered to tail them... rediculous really. At least it's cool to hang out with them around the campfire. :laugh:


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