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ImNtCrzy
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weird journeys as of late, input please
#5061870 - 12/14/05 10:36 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am having trouble figuring out my psychedelic journeys lately. I am a fairly seasoned psychonaught, I started in over a decade ago on L of all things, since then I have tried many many mind altering molecules and plants. I?ve generally enjoyed closed eye tripping and tend to go into my own mind. I also enjoy dancing. At this past burn I had an amazing spiritual awakening experience. What started out as me dancing ended with me in a deep meditative state, while still dancing and feeling what I can only describe as my prana or energy flowing from the earth through me and the universe, that was my 3rd level 5 experience in 13 years?. On very little substances to boot. Since then I have had 3 more level 5 experiences in a few months, all but the last on very little substances.
In all of these experiences I am able to feel and see the energy flow through me. I can control it and control the energy around me, but I always get to energy peak but am not able to get beyond it. My first experience at BM I felt awakened, some people came to me but I was in such a ecstatic state that I vaguely remember their physical selves, but I do remember them from my internal perception. At this point I was really disassocciatted with reality still I will be forever grateful to those who helped me. I go to a point where full enlightenment was within my grasp but I couldn?t get past a certain point and touch it. The one person I remember mho, told me that I have a ?burl? in my energy and to find a teacher.
Since then I have tried to go further into my mind, what I am wondering about is if is so wise to do so, my friends usually try to hold on to reality and sometimes make a game out of finding and rebuilding reality, which is funb, but I have been purposely been going deeper and deeper into my mind, the more scared I get the deeper I push myself. The last 2 times I had level 4 or 5 experiences I was dissacociated with the outside world yet I interected with it and pulled it into my own experience, in my mind I was pushing the bounds of reality, but at the same time in the outside world to others I have gone truly mad. Running around buildings causing chaos and almost getting arrested. Believe me I has bad, boy was it fun!! The past 2 times I really did go mad and run amuck around the city, each time I made it without getting arrested or seriously hurt. The weird thing is both times I always had people , complete stangers, either help me channel energy and get through my mind and heal me or run amuck with me. I talking seriously amuck! The other thing is I have the time of my life during this. In my mind everything I do is pushing the bounds of my mind and what is possible, it is translating into me believing I can do anything whether I am on anything or not. I know I can?t fly, but almost. My friends who are used to holding on to reality while tripping are getting worried for me, but I feel I able to go into my mind at the basest level and tap into much more. I have been on the cusp so many times, but fore some reason I can?t break through to the next level. My last trip which was not small 5 drops of really good fluff, started 2-3 hours earlier of with syrian rue extract and 1/16th shroom tea. I knew how to break through, in my mind I knew I could break through if I left my earthly body, but I was not ready to give that up just yet. I also knew the key could be something as simple as drinking some water or breathing correctly, but I couldn?t get to the next level. Can someone help me with some insight or maybe we can figure this out together. For some reason one of my goals during my journeys is to go mad, because with that I feel we can bend our perception of things for the better and still be grounded in the real world. How hard do you guys push yourselves into your minds? is this even a good idea? treading on dangerous grounds maybe? maybe not?
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Edited by ImNtCrzy (12/14/05 10:37 AM)
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Re: weird journeys as of late, input please [Re: ImNtCrzy]
#5061885 - 12/14/05 10:40 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good for you, if you meditate you can see this energy anyways without drugs.
Drugs only serve as a cheatcode to your untapped potential.
My meditation while off drugs very much are like yours, as I see my energy part of earth that extends in the sky.
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ImNtCrzy
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Re: weird journeys as of late, input please [Re: D_M_X]
#5061897 - 12/14/05 10:44 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been reading up on mediation lately and have been told to aquire a merkaba. Its wierd I generally have a fairly low attention span but I can mediate for about an hour completly still and feel great afterwords.
Breathing excercies really help me go much farther into my journeys, infact I've been trying to collect little mental trick to push my mind further.
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Re: weird journeys as of late, input please [Re: ImNtCrzy]
#5062581 - 12/14/05 01:44 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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"The weird thing is both times I always had people , complete stangers, either help me channel energy and get through my mind and heal me or run amuck with me. I talking seriously amuck! "
amazing! I can't help you at all, but that is really neat and remarkable.
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Re: weird journeys as of late, input please [Re: leery11]
#5063239 - 12/14/05 04:20 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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5-meO-dmt. That will sort you right.
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Christoph teh goat luvr
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Re: weird journeys as of late, input please [Re: ImNtCrzy]
#5063392 - 12/14/05 05:03 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am at a similar point of my tripping as well. I have tripped many times before to have fun or to just expect profound awakenings to just jump out at me without any preparation or proper set and setting. Not to say you can't experience both of these things without preparation, I have many times before, but I am learning that their are too many distractions to "beam straight through" if you have not taken the right preparation's. If you are trying to reach a higher level of consciousness, (Chikhai Bardo), then you must learn to integrate your experience to that point without being distracted with the outside world. You must learn to let go of your ego. Before trying another level 5 trip. Practice your meditation more. The more you practice the better. Learn to reach altered states of consciousness without drugs. Then when you are tripping it will be more familiar and easier to let go. For your next trip, I suggest you find a trusted sitter to serve as a guide. After you have taken care of everything on the outside world, (phones off, no work the next day, no distractions, etc.), then you may set out on your journey.
I strongly STRONGLY suggest you read the books- The Psychedelic Experience and The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment!
I cannot tell you how much they will help with the answers you seek!!!
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ImNtCrzy
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I will try to make meditation part of my daily routine and see if that helps, acutally I'm sure it will thanks.
5-Meo-Dmt... how does this differ from dmt from mimosahuasca? I heard they used to sell it online in the UK. BUt i have no idea where to even look here in the states
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Quote:
MushroomChris said: I strongly STRONGLY suggest you read the books- The Psychedelic Experience and The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment!
I cannot tell you how much they will help with the answers you seek!!!
I prepared for my recent trip by reading The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary), and I as well found it very insightful as an aide in "letting go."
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Christoph teh goat luvr
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Re: weird journeys as of late, input please [Re: FunkyLoFi]
#5065871 - 12/15/05 05:37 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep, very true. I strongly recommend that and The Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment. I also recommend reading Don Quixote books. They talk allot about forms of chi in a sense. He describes being in more than one place at the same time. Which, in a sense, is very possible in the dream world and while expanded. His books have allot to do with integrating your trips into your everyday life. Which is the main goal isn't it? The point of tripping is to achieve a higher self. In order to do that you must learn to integrate your experiences that you learn while expanded and weave them into your own life.
I can ramble on about this stuff all day long. So, really, READ THOSE BOOKS!
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ImNtCrzy
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thanks for the input guys... here's a link for a full version of The Psychedelic Experience by Timothy Leary.
Psychedelic Experience
on more link
lazz man's guide
I found that to be very interesting as I probably will the rest of the reading material. Which Don Quixote books? I've always heard that Quixote books were very enlightening.. I've never read them but fighting windmills that are dragons does sound like one my recent nights. For some reason I feel I need to attain some maddness to achieve a higher existence, maybe breaking down contructs of my reality/perception... I believe then you can actually tap into the power of the universe and it will help you along. I think the universe wants us to eventually reach our higher selves but we need to tap into that power. The problem is western civilization seems to say the power is within man as the individual not as part of the universe. I think when we break down social constructs that put self in the center, we will realize our connection with the universe and how the universe want us to realize our higher selves.
I have gone to what I feel is ego loss, relatively easily now, but I guess what I need mose is to reintergrate what i have seen/experienced. My main problem is the concepts that I encounter maybe so simple yet they are so beyond words it is hard fully conceptualize, usually I just play mind tricks that are more like mental markers or breadcrumbs. Perhaps I should just relax more rather than try to focus the energy I feel around me? One thing that also make it difficult for me to reintergrate is my memory, I have very little short term memory (cough cough) and my memory in itself is conceptual in nature rather than visual. So I usually forget what I see and it just stays almost like a dream imprint that fades into my mind rather than being hard visual memories that are easier to remeber. ok gotta stop rambling for now...
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Edited by ImNtCrzy (12/15/05 10:01 AM)
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Christoph teh goat luvr
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Re: weird journeys as of late, input please [Re: ImNtCrzy]
#5066492 - 12/15/05 10:17 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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"The problem is western civilization seems to say the power is within man as the individual not as part of the universe. I think when we break down social constructs that put self in the center, we will realize our connection with the universe and how the universe want us to realize our higher selves."
The power IS within man, we hold all of this knowledge within us. A trip does not teach us anything new, it just parts the veil and allows to see through all of the bullshit. We are all one! Everything and everyone is a part of you. That is what the Western civilization doesn't realize. "Which Don Quixote books?" All of them. I believe their is a series of 7. Read the first book all the way through to the last one.
"Perhaps I should just relax more rather than try to focus the energy I feel around me?" YES! This is one of your biggest mistakes. You must not try to direct your trip, let it direct you! The Psychedelic Experience talks allot about this in the chapter of the first bardo. Ego-loss comes with allot of new and scary feelings. You must learn to except these feelings and learn to enjoy them and let them take you where they will. Again, The Psychedelic Experience can explain this allot better than I can.
"So I usually forget what I see and it just stays almost like a dream imprint that fades into my mind rather than being hard visual memories that are easier to remember."
Remember, what you are trying to achieve is much more than visuals. Your are trying to achieve a higher state of consciousness, being one with all.
Like I said, the Don Quixote books will help you with learning to remember and integrate your experiences.
Feel free to PM me any time. I am on the same boat as you.
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ImNtCrzy
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going to barnes and noble now
happy trails.
funny thing one day a name popped into my head, kierkegaard, I don't really read too much so I had no idea of what this guy was about but Either/ Or A fragment of life is very interesting.
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