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OfflinehEAtOniKgun
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Cyan Mycelium question
    #5060498 - 12/13/05 11:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Ok my plan is that tomorrow im gonna go down to the local park, and get about a plastic bag full of mycelium, im wondering if the best way to make the mycelium grow more abundantly should be by watering the mycelium and storing them tied in the plastic bad, and put them in my closet for about a month, and if I could add fresh woodchips to this and eventually mycelium wood appear on the new woodchips.

Im wondering if this is a good idea for mycelium growth or if there are any other better ways or if there is anything wrong what I am doing. Thanks.

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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: hEAtOniKgun]
    #5060877 - 12/14/05 02:53 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Putting it in a plastic bag in your closet will effectively transplant the mycelium to an environment very different (in terms of humidity, temperature, air) from its natural habitat. As you do it so suddenly, my guess would be that the mycelium and substrate simply start to rot and are useless after a week or so. Why not transplant it directly into your garden or use the mycelium to spawn a regular growbag?

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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: koraks]
    #5063386 - 12/14/05 05:01 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah but mycelium wont grow with the same temperature as sprouting cyans (or atleast i think?), but i know mycelium growth is best at indoor temp, 70 degrees or so, and in a damp, humid place and the mycelium will slowly build.

Edited by hEAtOniKgun (12/14/05 05:47 PM)

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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: hEAtOniKgun]
    #5067868 - 12/15/05 04:03 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I'm trying a similar project.

I soaked some corrugated cardboard then drained the excess water.  I seperated the cardboard into a few different plastic bags, then placed bits of mycelium in the bags with the cardboard.

They are now sitting in my room. It has been a few weeks and the mycelium is definitely growing on the cardboad in some places. Unfortunatley it has been going pretty slow (probably because I live in a refrigerator, avg room temp of +/- 55 farenheit).

In TMC a method is mentioned where virgin Cyan spawn is collected wild, then grown out on jars of rye, then inoculated on cardboard (due to cardboard's low contamination rates). I figured I would skip the grain and go straight to the cardboard. I'm going LOW-Tech. But we'll see what happens. :wink:


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: didjin_d]
    #5074850 - 12/17/05 11:00 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I've got some woodchips that I picked up from a cyan patch in a jam jar with some cardboard, some cyan stem butts in between cardboard that I wet periodically and a plastic bag full of mycelium covered chips all sat in my handy 2nd refrigerator.

The idea was to see what happened and then throw the lot in a wood chip pile I'm building. Low tech for sure, but it's costing me nothing  :smile:


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: gwum]
    #5074970 - 12/17/05 11:35 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

You can actually go to the park and get cyan mycelium? Well damn..Too bad cyans don't grow around where I live.

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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: Anonymous]
    #5075139 - 12/17/05 12:18 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

For sure, if you check out my posts in the hunting section, you'll see cyan habitat pics. I grabbed a bag of the chips with plenty of mycelium on them. Don't know if the experiments will work, but nothing to lose :cool:


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: hEAtOniKgun]
    #5075394 - 12/17/05 01:42 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

You shouldn't destroy a patch to start your own patch.

You should start with a Cyan print and start your own mycelium.

People like you destroy patches all over my City...and it really pisses me off!~

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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: Roadkill]
    #5075446 - 12/17/05 02:03 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

No ones talking about "destroying" a patch. There are huge piles of chips which are brought in and then distributed to the various areas of the park. I don't see how taking from this pile is destroying a patch.

I'd never do anything to jeapordise an isolated patch.


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: gwum]
    #5075529 - 12/17/05 02:40 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

There are ways of getting mycelium without destroying a patch.

Sometimes a little mycelium comes up with a mushroom, This is NOT going to kill a patch.
It is possible to make a whole lot of mycelium from just a tiny piece from the wild, just grow it out on grain, woodchips or cardboard.

Now taking bagfulls of woodchips from one area....that might do some damage.
If anyone does decide to take colonized woodchips you could atleast be tidy, and cover any exposed Myc. with new chips. It a lot of people off seeing the remnants a Cyan patch sprawled all over.:foreheadslap:





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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: didjin_d]
    #5075559 - 12/17/05 02:54 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Absolutely right, it's all about being responsible. Any disturbance to the mycelium,no matter how small, should be made good with chips placed back on top.

I've seen large quantities of chips taken from individual patches and seen the patch die.

I witnessed whole sods of earth being dug up from a field of libs years ago and the net result was that within 2 seasons the whole field stopped fruiting.


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: gwum]
    #5075573 - 12/17/05 03:00 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

That sucks man...I wish I lived in England or at least some state that has Cyans. All we have here are Cubensis(I'm not complaining but i've never hunted) and Caerulipes(sp?)

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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: Anonymous]
    #5075584 - 12/17/05 03:08 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Cyans are not thought to be native to the UK and are being brought in on woodchips from either the US or some say Eastern Europe. They are becoming more widespread, but not prolific. I'm doing my best to help in the distribution process here in the south east.

I'm currently tracing the provider of the wood chips sold to the local woodland trust in an effort to trace their origin.


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: gwum]
    #5075591 - 12/17/05 03:12 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder if they could be brought to NC?

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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: gwum]
    #5077715 - 12/18/05 10:25 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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No ones talking about "destroying" a patch. There are huge piles of chips which are brought in and then distributed to the various areas of the park. I don't see how taking from this pile is destroying a patch.

I'd never do anything to jeapordise an isolated patch.




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There are ways of getting mycelium without destroying a patch.

Sometimes a little mycelium comes up with a mushroom, This is NOT going to kill a patch.
It is possible to make a whole lot of mycelium from just a tiny piece from the wild, just grow it out on grain, woodchips or cardboard.

Now taking bagfulls of woodchips from one area....that might do some damage.
If anyone does decide to take colonized woodchips you could atleast be tidy, and cover any exposed Myc. with new chips. It a lot of people off seeing the remnants a Cyan patch sprawled all over.:foreheadslap:


-DD





At least your not destroying patches.  :smile:



I have seen over 20 patches destroyed in the Seattle area this Cyan season.

Whole bed's pulled out of the ground...
and it really makes me upset when I see this kind of destruction.

Part of a patch over near the University of Washington that was completely pulled out of the ground...


:crazy:



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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: Roadkill]
    #5077760 - 12/18/05 10:45 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

That's sad, when i was in boyscouts they always taught us to leave areas just as we saw them.  Every rock that was turned over needed to be put back to where it was turned from, why people do this shit is beyond me, for 20 bucks you can get some cyan spores and cultivate them in your house more easily then you can dealing with a transplant.

Sorry to hear about the senseless destruction RK, that's pretty shitty.

As to the orig poster, good luck propagating the cyan species in your country :smile:


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: coda]
    #5077776 - 12/18/05 10:51 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry to hear about the senseless destruction RK, that's pretty shitty.






Thanks bro!~

I was out hunting Cyans with John...aka mushroom john.

Here is a better picture of 1 of the destroyed patches...


As you can see they took all the mycelium and woodchips with them.

:crazy:

Mother nature is crying over this.


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: Roadkill]
    #5077785 - 12/18/05 10:54 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

yah, and its not like they've done anything to repair the earth either.  Spread some grass seed, cover it with sand like you do on a golf course, hell just leave the friggin myc alone and come back when its time to harvest heheh.

ah well, people have been, and will always be, senseless morons.  Well, at least some of them anyways. :smile:


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: coda]
    #5077854 - 12/18/05 11:29 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

It seems that I'm the only one who has noticed the cyans in the woodchip areas, but I don't think it will stay that way for long.

Interestingly, on the day I found them there was a fungi foray with around 30 people attending. They were all sent out in the woods to bring back specimens for the head mycoligist to identify. I could not believe this, as people were walking around with all sorts with whole chunks of soil and mycelium attached.

I watched from around 50 yds away when they re-grouped, but could see no one with Cyans. Did the head guy warn people about picking from the woodchip beds or did people immediately run to the woods!

Anyway, I inspected my goods today and the contents of my "bag" filled a single jam jar, so I now have 2 of those and two cardboard runners.

Sorry if you guys had an image of a brit walking through the wilderness with a 10 gallon bag full of mycelium with a crater in the distance. :cool:


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Re: Cyan Mycelium question [Re: gwum]
    #5077869 - 12/18/05 11:39 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

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Sorry if you guys had an image of a brit walking through the wilderness with a 10 gallon bag full of mycelium with a crater in the distance. :cool:




np

We just had a bad year here with mycelium thiefs...

and I went on a rant!~

:smile:

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