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Smoking Amantia Muscaria ?
    #4881308 - 11/01/05 07:59 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I have a friend who was wanting to try smoking some dried amantia skin, but he's noticed that there is very little info about its effects anywhere..Doe's anyone else have a friend who has tried this and knows if its any good?. These shrooms seem to grow everywhere.

Thank you for any experiences, good or bad.

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #4881336 - 11/01/05 08:03 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

try to look on erowid in the FAQS...
i know that there is some complication about NEEDING to heat these in order to turn muscarine into muscimol or something like that, im probably wrong, and dont feel like reading about it...
so you do it..
here you are sir... http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: incubaby_421]
    #4881620 - 11/01/05 08:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I have,theres only one bit on it. It says its highly recommended, and might even be used as a replacement for cannabis.Basically it sounds good but i just wanted to know if anyone else has tried it, before my friend has a go.

Always good to get as much info as you can when trying something new.

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #4881651 - 11/01/05 08:58 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I found more reports, still very mixed ideas about this one.

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #4882506 - 11/02/05 03:26 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

To my knowledge, which has a couple different sources, Muscarine is 1- somewhat undesireable as to effects and 2- unstable.

When it decays due to instability it becomes Muscimol. Heat easily expedites this.

Muscimol + ∆heat -> muscimol.

My equation writing there is unorthidox, but I just havent used delta in an equation in a while and had to toss it in.


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Konnrade]
    #4883080 - 11/02/05 10:10 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Hiya,

I have tried this. I peeled off the skin then dried it under a low heat under the grill. I tried it a couple of times with slight effect. Put it this way, no way would it replace weed for me. It was more like a short buzzy headrush.

I abandonned the idea after that and prepared the rest of the amanitas to eat. This was interesting, they had to be dried slowly under grill or in oven till completely dry or they are dangerous.

I had trouble finding information about them as well but with erroid and searching previous posts here i balanced what i had read and decided to go for it. Many people, even here thought that they would be poisoness no matter how they are prepared. Apparently (though i didn't fancy trying this) You can take them once, then drink your urine after to get a more intense effect.... Myself, well, i took a low dose with 2 friends and felt a very pleasant dreamy high, pretty different to psylocibin. We didn't have that many amanitas so we could only take just over half the recommended first time dose. I took some cubenisis after about 3 hours and had a wicked time. The amanitas seemed to last much longer than the cubes, even with the delay in taking them.


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Biohazard81]
    #4883266 - 11/02/05 10:47 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

it seems that the phases of the intoxication go through the "cycle" faster. i probably suggest this instead of eating. as you can guage your dose better. and if you do get sick it wont last as long.


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: the man]
    #4883318 - 11/02/05 10:59 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

an old thread of mine when i tried it

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post3285624


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Biohazard81]
    #4883490 - 11/02/05 11:53 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

This shroom seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to try,some people seem to be abit prickly around the subject.I dont think most of these people have tried it. Ive seen some bad reports on eating them, usually when people have had too much, but at small doses it looks to be very nice, and its something i think we could make use of.

Cheers for the old thread.
Maybe a resin would be better, have you tried this yet.

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #4884307 - 11/02/05 03:57 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I've tried smoking Amanitas serveral times with little to no effect. I eventually concluded it to be a waste of my time. But by all means give it a go yourself and see what you think.

Edited by hnc (11/02/05 03:57 PM)

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: hnc]
    #4884315 - 11/02/05 03:58 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Did you get a lot of saliva in your mouth? Supposedly that is one effect it has; it makes your mouth water. Kind of the opposite of weed.

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #4884443 - 11/02/05 04:29 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Hrm... if that's true I may consider mixing it in small amounts with weed, because I get terrible drymouth and I'd love to be able to combat drymouth and intensify the experience with just one additive.


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Konnrade]
    #4885730 - 11/02/05 09:01 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Thats how I've always heard of it being used, in combination with pot.

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: hnc]
    #4886943 - 11/03/05 02:09 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

uhm, does any1 else find it strange to think of amanita as a weed replacement??

somehow it just doesent sit quite right in my mind...


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4886947 - 11/03/05 02:12 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

hehe... I'd say it all depends on your mindset.

Weed is definitely an easier drug to like otherwise I'd see as much stuff about people finding it unpleasant as I did about people not so much liking amanitas.

But no doubt some people feel that amanita is superior to weed. It's all in what you're looking for in a drug I think.


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #4886958 - 11/03/05 02:17 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

well its not only that, but it seems kind of wastefull
and 'consumer spociety'ish to take something with the
power to change all of reality for you and use it to
get a mild high...

but indeed it al depends on mindset...


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4887339 - 11/03/05 07:08 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Smoking it confuses me cos some people say it works, while others say not at all. Id expect the mushrooms chemicals to either be destroyed by the heat, or not, if one of these is true you should get a clear answer yes or no whether it works or not.

Could placebo be playing a part in this or is it just that the amount that you can smoke just isnt enough for some people.

I read somewhere that its different chemicals that become active when smoked, which would explain the different knock, but if your mouth waters this would suggest muscinol is working.

only one thing to do n thats try it. i have some drying so now, ill try it soon and get back to yous about any effects ( assuming ive got my ID right[how hard can it be]):)

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #4887427 - 11/03/05 07:46 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Don't forget the active ingredient is not psylocibin so you can't assume that heat would break it down. Because of this, interestingly enough, Amanita Muscaria is not a controlled mushroom in the UK if i'm not mistaken.

When you could buy fresh but not dried psylocibin containing mushrooms, you could buy dried amanitas.

I seem to remember my mouth watering when i ate them but it was a while ago and i can't remember if that really happened....

As for replacing weed, i think it is an additional not a replacement. If i could choose one or the other weed would be the one.

I wish i could find more of them, i have only found them twice!


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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: Biohazard81]
    #4887848 - 11/03/05 09:45 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

this is how i describe amantia. after method of injestion ie smoking or eating. ( i only take very small doses, half a medium or medium cap. and jsut a bowl full of "skin") you become a little out of it or sedated for a short period of time, then the "irritated energy" you become almost fustrated feeling of beign ucomfortable with still a unfocused view of reality. but at the right kind of small dose it can be warming on cold days.

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Re: Smoking Amantia Muscaria ? [Re: the man]
    #4888573 - 11/03/05 12:33 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Amantia Muscaria is not controlled in britain & touch wood it stays that way.

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