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OfflineSKUNKbrs
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Fresh weight -> dried weight?
    #4841966 - 10/23/05 03:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Know of someone who recently ordered 75 grams of fresh philosophers stones (Tampanensis). The site he ordered from gives a recommended doses of 3.5g-7g for a light trip, 7-14g for a heavy trip.

Most dosages written about around here / erowid are dried. How much weight can one expect to lose going from fresh to dry? And, as an aside, do these recommended doses sound about right?


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Re: Fresh weight -> dried weight? [Re: SKUNKbrs]
    #4842068 - 10/23/05 04:15 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Around 90% of the wet mushroom is water.

75 wet grams would roughly be 7.5 dried grams, although it can vary.

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Re: Fresh weight -> dried weight? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #4845905 - 10/24/05 02:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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HeavyToilet said:Around 90% of the wet mushroom is water. 75 wet grams would roughly be 7.5 dried grams, although it can vary.



No, fresh stones have a lower water content (70%) than fresh mushrooms (90%). This has a surprisingly large effect on the wet/dry potency ratio.

There was a very detailed thread a few months ago that talked all about this. I'll look for it and post another message later if I find it.

Ah, here it is:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4136221#Post4136221

Edited by wjames (10/24/05 02:07 PM)

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Re: Fresh weight -> dried weight? [Re: wjames]
    #4845924 - 10/24/05 02:06 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

maybe they mean fresh on the website?

depending on how much he paid, you should be able to tell if they meant fresh or dried.

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Re: Fresh weight -> dried weight? [Re: wjames]
    #4845943 - 10/24/05 02:12 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Oh yeah, whoops.

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Re: Fresh weight -> dried weight? [Re: SKUNKbrs]
    #4845970 - 10/24/05 02:18 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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SKUNKbrs said:The site he ordered from gives a recommended doses of 3.5g-7g for a light trip, 7-14g for a heavy trip.
...do these recommended doses sound about right?



For comparison, the de sjamaan vendor website, http://www.sjamaan.com/en/index.html , says this about fresh stones:

Dose
5-10 grams for a light trip
10-15 grams for a normal trip
15-20 grams for a strong trip

They also say "Note! Start with a low dose (5 grams) of these magic mushrooms to check your sensitivity."


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