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need help emergency. !!!
    #4836538 - 10/21/05 11:15 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

okay i got home from work and picked the fresh mushies weighed them in at 30 grams even .. i put them in a rubber maid container till later tonight.. well, then thought to put them in the freezer after awhile i took them out the freezer and they sat in the rubbermaid for a couple hours and now i open the container and there black and sogy but still smell like shrooms ... are they cool to eat or toss them please help .

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836551 - 10/21/05 11:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You can eat them, but it will be gooey... I suggest a smoothie :smile:
Now you know what happens to frozen shrooms :lol:

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4836558 - 10/21/05 11:19 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

thank you sooo much i wanna trip so bad tonight ..

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836559 - 10/21/05 11:19 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

do you think it will be a good potent trip? it weighed 30 grams wet before i did the freeze drying

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836565 - 10/21/05 11:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Should be = to a 3 - 3.5 gram dry.
Should be quite entertaining :smile:

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4836569 - 10/21/05 11:24 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

just weighed them again and there 20 grams even but really sogy ...what ya think? i have a piece of bread with some butter on it im gonna put the mushies on it and eat it all

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836574 - 10/21/05 11:25 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

BTW - For future reference.
Fresh shroom kept in a paper bag in the fridge will stay good for around a week.
Be sure it's a paper bad.

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836579 - 10/21/05 11:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Just pretend it's Raw Oysters and go for it :lol:

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4836583 - 10/21/05 11:28 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

wow that was the nastiest thing i have aten.. i just ate them shrooms wet and sogy by them selves.. but it should be worth it

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836589 - 10/21/05 11:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

just finished chewing them.. lol.. im a darn trip a holic if i dont say so myself..

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836591 - 10/21/05 11:31 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:  :lol:

Have fun :smile:

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4836594 - 10/21/05 11:31 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

do you think that it weighed only 20 grams now i will be good .. cause i tripped last friday night also on 24 grams wet?

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4836598 - 10/21/05 11:34 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Should be fine... let us know tomorrow how it was.

Later
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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4837044 - 10/22/05 02:54 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

After you freeze and re-thaw fresh shrooms, all the cells (full of water) expand and split, the same way a beer splits open when you leave it in the freezer. This exposes all the psilocybin to the air and to oxidation, thats why they are all black. They wont be potent at all.

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: _OttO_]
    #4840744 - 10/23/05 09:12 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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After you freeze and re-thaw fresh shrooms, all the cells (full of water) expand and split, the same way a beer splits open when you leave it in the freezer. This exposes all the psilocybin to the air and to oxidation, thats why they are all black. They wont be potent at all.




Your almost correct, except it is the psilocin that oxidizes and is destroyed. It is only a small percentage and is destroyed when dried anyway, so the loss is only minimal.
But an excellent descriptin and analogy :smile:

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4840808 - 10/23/05 09:48 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

So psilocybin does not oxidise at all when exposed to oxygen?

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: _OttO_]
    #4840978 - 10/23/05 10:50 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

"So psilocybin does not oxidise at all when exposed to oxygen?"

No... if that were the case... all dried actives would be useless :smile:
The psilocin does break down when it oxidizes, causing the bluing effect.
You break open a few cells when you pinch a shroom causing the psilocin to oxidize and bruise blue.
Freeze them and you break open all the cells, when it thaws, they oxidize and you get that black blue goo!  But the psilocybin content stay intact.

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #4842738 - 10/23/05 07:05 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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"So psilocybin does not oxidise at all when exposed to oxygen?"

No... if that were the case... all dried actives would be useless :smile:

Shdwstr




Well, Im not sure if I agree with that for one reason - when drying a mushroom, the active ingredients INSIDE the shroom are never actually exposed to the air - they are safely surrounded by the mushroom tissue. But I also never knew that psilocibyn didn't oxidise, so I may also be wrong about this. Thanx mate.

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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: _OttO_]
    #4843506 - 10/23/05 09:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yep... 2 important lessons were (hopefully) learned.


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Re: need help emergency. !!! [Re: tony8404]
    #4844199 - 10/24/05 12:12 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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