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Silent_Vinny
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Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help!
#4769469 - 10/07/05 02:06 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Right now, with three buddies I'm slightly high (from weed), and beer. We have waited two hours for the Fly Agaric shit to work on us. We bought an ounce for a 100 dollars.
First night we took 1.7 grams each, nothing of a normal (illegal) shroom would of brought on from that amount. We did although mix weed with the trip (as we read on a website that it would reduce the nasuea feeling on the come up).
It's been 3 hours and we have felt nothing drasic from the four gram amount that we have taken.
Are we supposed to take more?
Help us out please.
We are having fun wit the beer and dope, but the hurt of a loss of 100 for a shroom that don't get you high is annoying us.
We want to trip.
Help.
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DoubleVision
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: Silent_Vinny]
#4769499 - 10/07/05 02:10 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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u got seriously ripped off..
an ounce of that stuff is like 15 bucks.. or so ive seen..
and what ive herd there is no visuals off of fly agaric just a nausiating money wasting trip of nothing
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ThePredator
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: DoubleVision]
#4769525 - 10/07/05 02:15 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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The muscarine in them makes them powerful hallucogens (externel stimuli go through the acetyl muscarinic pathway of the parasympathetic nuerosystem, the muscarine alters this pathway and thus alters perception) but all the bad stuff has to be turnied into muscarine throught the use of heat.
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JackTackle
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: Silent_Vinny]
#4769799 - 10/07/05 03:08 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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muscarine? you are making shit up the primary active chemical is muscamol
you ate em wrong and you need more than a couple grams
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A. muscaria can be taken orally and there are also some claims that it can be smoked for effect. All parts of the mushroom are psychoactive, though there is some evidence that the material just under the skin is the most potent. The chart below shows approximate oral dosages dried A. muscaria in grams (g).
Oral Dosage is for completely dried cap material only: Oral A. muscaria Dosage Light 1 - 5 g (1 medium cap) Common 5 - 10 g (1-3 medium caps) Strong 10 - 30 g (2-6 medium caps)
Onset : 30 - 120 minutes Peak : 1 - 2 hrs Duration : 5 - 10 hours (higher doses seem to last longer) Additional After Effects : 1 - 5 hours
source: http://www.clearwhitelight.org/hatter/amanita.htm
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Edited by JackTackle (10/07/05 03:17 PM)
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incubaby_421
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: JackTackle]
#4769938 - 10/07/05 03:48 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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you got hosed... look here you dumbass http://www.salviaspace.com/amanita.html you can buy a QP for eighty bucks, regardless, you want to trip? go find a big piece of wood, and walk into it, remembering not to step over it
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ThePredator
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: incubaby_421]
#4770011 - 10/07/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Their is muscarine, muscumol and muscuzone present in amnita muscara. Muscarine is the acetyl muscarinic affector, I was not making things up, although the muscumol is the primary hallucogenic alkaloid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
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Edited by ThePredator (10/07/05 04:20 PM)
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JackTackle
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: ThePredator]
#4770190 - 10/07/05 05:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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i guess you're right my bad i've read a lot about a. muscaria and never heard of muscarine
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GulGen
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: JackTackle]
#4770661 - 10/07/05 08:08 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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For any newbies out there reading this thread, this is exactly why you do your research before you buy and/or use any psychoactives. He paid about five times what they'd normally cost (at any number of online vendors) and then proceeded to eat about a threshold dose.
Good job
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incubaby_421
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: GulGen]
#4770673 - 10/07/05 08:12 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL^^^^ sorry dude, its really not funny, I would be pissed... but take this as a learning experience... when i was fifteen i discovered the greatness of the internet, and proceeded to google and or yahoo every drug or chem. which i was to experiment with, it has benifited me grately, plus... i found the shroomery!
-------------------- "yet the more i dig, the more i consume, the more i unfold... the less protected i feel. i am the spit on the hair of the son of an electron, swimming around the nucleus of a cell inside the sperm of a killer bee, and my purpose is as nebulous as why weve been bestowed with the capacity to give a shit" Brandon Boyd
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JackTackle
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: GulGen]
#4770729 - 10/07/05 08:31 PM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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GulGen said: For any newbies out there reading this thread, this is exactly why you do your research before you buy and/or use any psychoactives. He paid about five times what they'd normally cost (at any number of online vendors) and then proceeded to eat about a threshold dose.
Good job
that is exactly right in his ignorance he's lucky he under dosed instead of overdosing you shouldn't just take a random amount of a drug you know nothing about that's how people get hurt
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Lysergic_Milkman
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: ThePredator]
#4771488 - 10/08/05 12:22 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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ThePredator said: Their is muscarine, muscumol and muscuzone present in amnita muscara. Muscarine is the acetyl muscarinic affector, I was not making things up, although the muscumol is the primary hallucogenic alkaloid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscarine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
You were not making things up, but it should be made clear that muscarine is also the only (major) chemical found in A. muscaria that is potentially deadly, but the amount is so small that it's hardly a threat, so the last thing that you would want is more of this stuff. Heat is indeed good, though, as it turns ibotenic acid into muscimol (not muscarine, thankfully).
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Silent_Vinny
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: GulGen]
#4772348 - 10/08/05 09:29 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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Real shrooms are a struggle to get. We were there. Had the money, and beleived the guy that they were going to be good enough. He even said, be careful with these, you eat more than three gram you go to hospital.
This is 100 Canadian by the way. Still quite a bit.
Funny story out of this whole mess. I sold an eitgh to one of my dope dealers who was fiending for a trip. (He's a newb to it all). Traded an eitgh of the red cap shit for an eigth of some fine bud.
My buddies and I smoked about a gram of it, along with some E. Later on that night, we had a camp fire in the forest, and the guy who actually proposed the deal, was so high that he was going around throwing garbage in the fire. He picked up my ziploc bag that was on the ground. Couldn't see the bud in it. ASked me what it was. I said it was my dope. And without thinking, just as soon as I answered him he tossed the fuckin dope in the fire and I ran over to it, and that shit burned up within a second. Was about to stick my hand in there, but it just burned up to fast.
Been a lousy holiday so far (Canada Thanksgiving). I think a lot of it had to do with the bad legal shroom.
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lechuck
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: DoubleVision]
#4772437 - 10/08/05 10:11 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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DoubleVision said: u got seriously ripped off..
an ounce of that stuff is like 15 bucks.. or so ive seen..
15 bucks?! , every year I go for edibles and I see hundreds of amanita muscaria all over the place, I could get as much as I could fit in my car. paying for muscaria is just insane
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icculus_
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: lechuck]
#4772465 - 10/08/05 10:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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same here lechunk
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BlueCoyote
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: Silent_Vinny]
#4772468 - 10/08/05 10:23 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think, I have read somewhere, that heating muscaria is essential.
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Koala Koolio
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: BlueCoyote]
#4772512 - 10/08/05 10:37 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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It is, but if he bought them they were probably dried anyway, possibly be heat.
Not sure if they were wild or bought on the net, entho stores would dry them right. Doesn't really matter, as either would make for an extremely successful scam in this case. I've been looking for some on my walks recently, hopefully I'll find them before their season ends.
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lechuck
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Re: Amanita Muscaria Red Cap Fly Agaric Mushrooms. Need Help! [Re: Koala Koolio]
#4772530 - 10/08/05 10:44 AM (18 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thnik that is better to get the amanitas in high altitude
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