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 Doctor Assisted Suicide 
#4759492 - 10/05/05 02:53 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Who Chooses Physician-Assisted Suicide?
Wednesday, October 05, 2005
PORTLAND, Ore. ? Since 1997, more than 230 terminally ill Oregonians have ended their lives with lethal but legally prescribed doses of medication. The rate of "assisted suicides" has risen since the Oregon Death With Dignity Act (search) went into effect, hitting a high of 42 in 2003.
A common argument against legal assisted suicide has been that the poor, black, or uneducated would be more vulnerable to abuse. But in Oregon, those who have opted for it have tended to be college educated, white, single and suffering from cancer, AIDS or Lou Gehrig's disease (search).
Most have reported the reason they chose to commit suicide was out of fear they would eventually be unable to care for themselves, rather than out of fear of pain or becoming a financial burden to their families.
According to health department reports, most patients died within a few hours of taking a lethal amount of barbiturates.
But last year, there were three reported incidence of complications. The patients vomited after taking the pills, and while they all eventually died, one took 31 hours to do so.
This year, Oregon saw its first reported case of failure. Lung-cancer patient David Prueitt went into a coma that lasted for three days. After he woke up, he lived for two more weeks. The ordeal reinforced his brother's opposition to assisted suicide (search).
"It just seems like we are dabbling in an area that is really not ours. We are taking control in an area that ... God gives life, he's also the taker of it," said brother Steve Prueitt.
But one cancer patient said that knowing that a physician-supervised suicide is an option has given her great peace.
"All I want is the option. The amount of peace I have had, knowing from the beginning when I was given my diagnosis, that this option was available to me is beyond describing," said Lovell Svart.
Oregon voters have largely agreed that Svart and others like her ought to be given a choice. Sixty-one percent of voters backed the law in 1997, and while initial polls showed doctors overwhelmingly against it, acceptance is growing.
The medical profession is still deeply divided over the issue. Doctors who participate argue assisted suicide is compassionate, but many of their colleagues say the practice is a violation of the oath to do no harm.
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God is not the taker of MY life.
Fucking zealots.
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 Divided_Sky
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 Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: afoaf]
#4760591 - 10/05/05 08:35 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I totally support Doctor Assisted Suicide. Those people are in a lot of pain and we shouldn't force them to live while their bodies and minds fall apart.
As far as the Supreme Court is weighing in it makes me very nervous about John Roberts.
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: Divided_Sky]
#4760845 - 10/05/05 09:17 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have never understood how the state can claim to have sovereignty over the choice of whether or not you continue your existence.
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Redstorm
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: afoaf]
#4760901 - 10/05/05 09:25 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think people should be free to take their own lives, regardless of whether or not they want a doctor to do it for them.
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QuantumMeltdown
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: Redstorm]
#4761334 - 10/05/05 10:36 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think they should abandon the doctor assited suicide campaign and start a doctor assisted sexual intercourse campaign instead aimed at helping people conceive that are having troubles and what not.
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Quote:
QuantumMeltdown said:
I think they should abandon the doctor assited suicide campaign and start a doctor assisted sexual intercourse campaign instead aimed at helping people conceive that are having troubles and what not.
I'm pretty sure that's legal already.
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: Silversoul]
#4763212 - 10/06/05 09:56 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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not true 'doctor assisted'...he's talking about the
woman with the lawsuit in Oregon.
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lonestar2004
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: afoaf]
#4763409 - 10/06/05 10:48 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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State vs federal..... I am for states rights.
I do have a problem with the word "assisted".
let me kill myself if i want.
but should afoaf be able to take me out?
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: lonestar2004]
#4763523 - 10/06/05 11:09 AM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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if I'm a doctor and you've consented, I should be
able to do whatever I want to you...
bwahahahahahaha
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: lonestar2004]
#4763792 - 10/06/05 12:05 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
lonestar2004 said:
State vs federal..... I am for states rights.
I do have a problem with the word "assisted".
let me kill myself if i want.
but should afoaf be able to take me out?
Agreed.
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: kake]
#4764493 - 10/06/05 03:08 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think you might have a hard time killing yourself being a bedridden old person on feeding tubes or a cathoder and if your family helped they would go to jail for murder.
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Re: Doctor Assisted Suicide [Re: lonestar2004]
#4764509 - 10/06/05 03:12 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
lonestar2004 said:
State vs federal..... I am for states rights.
I do have a problem with the word "assisted".
let me kill myself if i want.
but should afoaf be able to take me out?
That's not how Oregon's assisted suicide law works. The doctor doesn't actually kill you himself. Rather, he writes up a prescription for a lethal drug cocktail which will kill you in the most painless way possible. He provides instructions on how to take the drugs, and then leaves the room. It is up to the patient to take the drugs as prescribed and follow the instructions. The only assistance in this case is the provision of the drugs and the instructions on how to take them.
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