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how to get my casing to start pinning. *pic*
    #4384535 - 07/08/05 04:24 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i've tried dropping the temp to 77, but my tub temps fluctuate. so i'm thinking, should i just patch the myc and throw it in the fridge for 24 hours? any feedback is good

Edited by matjiz (07/08/05 11:10 PM)

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: matjiz]
    #4384563 - 07/08/05 04:29 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

If you can't get the temp. drop, yes you can. I've had to do it with some stubborn casings.

Make sure they get enough light, I do a 12/12 cycle. And make sure they get plenty of fresh air.

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: HippieChick]
    #4384579 - 07/08/05 04:36 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Fill a 2 liter or half gallon bottle with water and freeze it , then place it in your tub. I've done this a few times and I always get pins , depending on how big your tub is it should drop to the low 70's.

I would try this before exposing it to the 30 degree temps of the fridge.


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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: MaJikFungus]
    #4384591 - 07/08/05 04:41 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Mine's a little too big for that,



I guess I could put a small AC unit in it,lol.

Or do you think the ice thing would work on that ?

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: HippieChick]
    #4384637 - 07/08/05 04:59 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I use the frozen bottles with my Martha closet and it works fine , you just have to place them right next to the casing you want to pin.

I've been meaning to come up with a way to hang a 2 liter bottle over the casing so the cold air drops right down on it , just have to solve the problem of condensation dripping on it.


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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: MaJikFungus]
    #4384658 - 07/08/05 05:12 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

just run a AC in the same room as the casings,simple as that!!!!that is what i do and i can get any temp i want!!


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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: sludge]
    #4385038 - 07/08/05 07:24 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

after it starts to pin. do i have to keep the temps in the low 70's?

also, theres alot've myc already poking out. should i patch it b4 i drop the temps?

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: matjiz]
    #4385137 - 07/08/05 08:08 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

what about misting with ice cold water

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: matjiz]
    #4385181 - 07/08/05 08:19 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

matjiz said:
after it starts to pin. do i have to keep the temps in the low 70's?

also, theres alot've myc already poking out. should i patch it b4 i drop the temps?


75 is good, i higher temp will make the pins already formed grow faster and it will inhibit your secound flush but you can raise the temp a couple degrees and be fine!!!!and do not patch once the fruiting process has begain, when you patch and start fruiting the mycel will continue to grow for a few days.


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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: ziploker]
    #4385184 - 07/08/05 08:20 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

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ziploker said:
what about misting with ice cold water


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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: sludge]
    #4385337 - 07/08/05 09:29 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I will take pics of how colonized my casing is here in a few

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: matjiz]
    #4385571 - 07/08/05 11:09 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)


there it is. i think i messed up, and should've fruiting it. but this is the 1st layer of poo over the rye grain. i was told your suppose to let it fully colonize then case it. but since i already exposed it to fresh air i was just gonna patch it and drop the temp. i was doing so good until this part. i think i just got confused with all the info on this site, alot've info here clashes with one another. i just hope i didn't screw up too bad

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: matjiz]
    #4385667 - 07/08/05 11:43 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

yeah case it! you aren't supposed to case with anything with nutrients in it (like poo) because the mycelium consumes the caseing layer instead of colonizing it correctly...

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: myndreach]
    #4385696 - 07/08/05 11:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

i can't case it with poo? well all i got right now it perlite. what do i need? i thought i could just patch the myc with more poo then fruit it. i can't do that?

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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: matjiz]
    #4386096 - 07/09/05 04:31 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Casing is supposed to be coir or verm or either mixed with peat.. It's supposed to be a non-nutritious layer, that holds water..


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Re: how to get my casing to start pinning. [Re: Kalix]
    #4386571 - 07/09/05 10:49 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

>what do i need?

To do one hell of alot more reading. The poo should have been MIXED in with the grain, not layered on top. After everything fully formed a solid brick, a casing should be applied and incubated for a few more days. You need to get that shit out of fruiting chamber because it isnt even done colonizing, quit getting ahead of yourself and do ONE step at a time, first let the mycelium comsume ALL THE nutrients, then add a casing layer for holding water WITH NO nutrients in it (peat/verm work the best but you need a buffer, coir/verm work very well with a buffer and pretty well without, strait verm works ok, and is very simple, less yeilds compared..but at this point youll be lucky to not get contams).


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