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Verm/Brf/Oak dust
    #4093621 - 04/24/05 10:59 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Could I use that for ediables?

I've got no bran and no gypsum...=/

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Re: Verm/Brf/Oak dust [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4093748 - 04/24/05 11:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

saw some guy do oysters on a pf tek after everyone said it wouldn't work. PF even came buy and congratulated him. So give it a try. Which edible specifically?


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Re: Verm/Brf/Oak dust [Re: xburn]
    #4093965 - 04/25/05 12:40 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i think that mixture if simular to what www.sporeworks.com uses for their woodlover spawn bags. It would be fine


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Re: Verm/Brf/Oak dust [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4094027 - 04/25/05 01:17 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

As long as you don't mix in to much BRF I think it should work just fine. 20% BRF would be enough..

Good idea to use verm in the mixture. My sawdust blocks are small and tend to dry quickly in my fruiting bins. The verm will improve water holding capacity. I will give this a try this next time....

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Re: Verm/Brf/Oak dust [Re: Owl]
    #4094113 - 04/25/05 02:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Wow....So it'd be ok to make 1/5 brf, and the rest saw dust? Or do i Have to have bran and gysum? I was told that u couold use wheat flour as  a subusitute for bran....

Tnkx for the help guys :wink:

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Re: Verm/Brf/Oak dust [Re: IGnosticAbhorI]
    #4094173 - 04/25/05 02:43 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I found the following FAO publication (see http://www.fao.org//DOCREP/004/AB497E/ab497e07.htm#bm7.6) that has a relevant note on additives (in caps):

"Substrate preparation
100 kg Sawdust

Add to sawdust
5 kg Rice bran
2 kg Calcium sulfate
1 kg Calcium carbonate
0.2 kg Magnesium sulfate
0-1 kg Sugar

Note: Substrate recipe should serve as a reference. Recipe can be changed by adding some RICE FLOUR, STICKY RICE FLOUR, CORN FLOUR, CASSAVA PEELS, COTTON WASTE, SOYA-BEAN RESIDUE, and OTHER NUTRITIOUS AGRICULTURAL WASTE. In cool climates, it is possible to USE ADDITIVES OR COMPLEMENTING MATERIALS UP TO 20%. Beware: for hot climatic zones, do not use more than 7.5% additives. (If rice straw, recipe needs to be modified as above mentioned)"

So you can use wheat flour, BRF and corn flour as an additive and it depends on your climate how much additive you should add. More additives also require longer sterilization times. I sterilize my substrate for three hours in the pc and use 20% wheat bran as an additive. I live in a Mediterranean climate and have few contaminations so far (maybe 1%).

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