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FreakQlibrium
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Do endless parameters equal infinity?
#3368137 - 11/16/04 09:31 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seriously though. By endless i mean the constant ability of parameters to expand for eternity, assuming of course that eternity itself is a timeless state. Pls feel free to discuss and be kind as i am new(relatively) to S & P
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3368162 - 11/16/04 09:41 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not sure, but when I think of infinity I thing about something that never ends/will exist forever. So I'd say the endlessness (is that even a word? ) counts for infinity
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FreakQlibrium
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3370048 - 11/16/04 05:15 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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~~*Bump for the night crew*~~
Yeah, you can take someone out of OTD but you can't take the OTD out of that person, or some such thing*
*Horrible allusion/reference to an old Marlboro cigarette ad
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3370103 - 11/16/04 05:27 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well that all depends on what you mean by the "expansion" of parameters
Greater detail? Or greater size?
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3370118 - 11/16/04 05:29 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I see parameters as being endlessly expandable. I don't know what sort of elaboration you are looking for.
You've been an absolute pleasure in S&P by the way! I havn't seen any OTD in you. I read there sometimes. I've seen things posted there that I will need therapy for. LOL
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FreakQlibrium
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: trendal]
#3370122 - 11/16/04 05:30 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is questions such as THOSE that make me wanna tuck my tail between my legs and head back to OTD
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trendal
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3370157 - 11/16/04 05:35 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, but I'm all small and unthreatening
Ok, so...greater size or greater detail?
If the parameters are getting bigger, they can't be infinite. If they aren't infinite now, they will never BE infinite. You can't add your way to infinity...something is either infinite or finite, there is no in-between.
If the detail is infinite, then I would just call it "indiscrete". That is, there is no "smallest part" you can look at. You could look at smaller and smaller portions as long as you want and will never find the "smallest part".
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: trendal]
#3370171 - 11/16/04 05:37 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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trendal said: Oh, but I'm all small and unthreatening
Whahaha.. trendal, you're great man. I mean that, I love your personality.
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Swami
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Speaking of expansion, the timeless question of length vs. girth has never been fully answered. (Oops, I thought this was OTD). Nevermind.
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#3370190 - 11/16/04 05:41 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya,
trendals heart would be a good example of how parameters can keep expanding into infinity.
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FreakQlibrium
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Quote:
gettinjiggywithit said: I see parameters as being endlessly expandable. I don't know what sort of elaboration you are looking for.
You've been an absolute pleasure in S&P by the way! I havn't seen any OTD in you. I read there sometimes. I've seen things posted there that I will need therapy for. LOL
Thanks for the warm welcome mang(yet another OTD colloquialism lol!) i think the whole meaning of parameters as opposed to perimiters is that they ARE flexible and subject to infinite change. I'm not really good with math stuff or intellectual things generally(i think parameters is a mathematical reference) but i did do GR8 at differential calculus w/e the fuck THAT means so i can't really comment on the inate qualities of parameters vs perimeters, but to ME perameters signify something that is always shifting and open to chaynge(yes: another bad allusion to "spare chaynge" from the "bathing at baxters" LP by the Jefferson Air-0-plane )
OK. So I am a bad amalgam of OTD meets the Pub meets S & P, what can i say?
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: stefan]
#3370193 - 11/16/04 05:41 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not sure, but when I think of infinity I thing about something that never ends/will exist forever.
When I think of infinity, I think of the "Heaven is coming to earth" thread.
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3370199 - 11/16/04 05:42 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Amazingly there is an answer to this. If u study Multi variable calculus and infinite series, some "converge" while others do not. e.g. the series 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/16 basically Sum to infinity of 1/(x^2) where x is the the set of all positive integers (i.e. an infinite set) converges to 2. At least, if my memory is correct. Unfortunately I don't have my calculus book on me but it's fascinating stuff that adding and infinite amount of numbers may NOT yeild an infinitely large number (because the numbers are getting smaller faster) and so it may "converge" to a specific value ! other series, of course, may be infinite 1 + 2 + 3... or 1 + 2 + 4 + 16 are obvious ones. But interestingly if u think of it this way it gives new meaning to the phrase "there's always room for improvement"... yea there's always room for improvement but there may be a limit, because the improvement might be getting smaller so quickly that it's totally accurate to say yea you'll always improve, BUT, you'll never get beyond this point...BUT... u can always get closer to that point... Gotta love Math...
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Edited by lucid (11/16/04 05:44 PM)
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FreakQlibrium
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: Swami]
#3370237 - 11/16/04 05:48 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Swami said: Speaking of expansion, the timeless question of length vs. girth has never been fully answered. (Oops, I thought this was OTD). Nevermind.
I didn't realize that the subject of the relative size of a man's genitilia was allowed here
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: lucid]
#3370254 - 11/16/04 05:50 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ludid! My Gawd mang! GR8 2CU around mang umma yeah, bad grammatical sense, my bad
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: FreakQlibrium]
#3370279 - 11/16/04 05:54 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sicko! I was talking about the size of the universe - sheeesh!
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: Swami]
#3370293 - 11/16/04 05:56 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Universe is both lengthy and has a large girth. The expansion rate, once stimulated, is far beyond the speed of light. This rapid inflation sets up gravitational waves which undulate throughout the spacetime sheet
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FreakQlibrium
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: Swami]
#3370316 - 11/16/04 05:59 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Swami said: Sicko! I was talking about the size of the universe - sheeesh!
LMAO! I guess i just have a sick mind Sorry to have projected my spiritual impurities onto YOU
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: trendal]
#3371367 - 11/16/04 08:55 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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trendal said: The Universe is both lengthy and has a large girth. The expansion rate, once stimulated, is far beyond the speed of light. This rapid inflation sets up gravitational waves which undulate throughout the spacetime sheet
LMAO THAT wuz priceless just oozing with subtlty
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Re: Do endless parameters equal infinity? [Re: lucid]
#3371383 - 11/16/04 08:59 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Indeed it is. Another post with cool visuals! tren, you should write for Galactic Soft Porn magazine! ha ha
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Edited by gettinjiggywithit (11/16/04 09:00 PM)
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