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World Spirit
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I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses
#3299096 - 10/30/04 09:39 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Show me them pics and gimme some tips
Please...
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Gr0wer
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: World Spirit]
#3299686 - 10/31/04 12:29 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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What are you talking about? What types of plants/cacti?
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kadakuda
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: Gr0wer]
#3299725 - 10/31/04 12:45 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think he means those little plastic fold out greenhouses that people have. liek a shelf with lights and a sleeve from what ive seen. just keeps it warmer and more humid, some fo the ones ive seen have vents and fans and crap.
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Gr0wer
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: kadakuda]
#3299771 - 10/31/04 01:01 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those greenhouses are for starting seedlings outdoors not growing indoors. They dont give much square footage and stacking grows can cause heat problems unless you have multiple ventilation fans.
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: Gr0wer]
#3299885 - 10/31/04 01:30 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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On a closely related subject I'm getting my glasshouse tomorrow hopefully
probably this one
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: faslimy]
#3301681 - 10/31/04 04:43 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now that's cool! I've wanted one fo those for a long time but have not had the room. Once i finally take the plunge and buy a house i'm gonna get a big fancy greenhouse on my property. edit: i guess i should say more. My mother bought this for me as a christmas gift some years ago from like this 15.99 catalogue, so it's not the best of quality and the plastic is beginning to rip in places and the metal pipes are rusting, but it still works. I've seen some nicer ones at Lowes. But i'm too cheap for that.
Edited by neuro (10/31/04 04:44 PM)
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World Spirit
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: neuro]
#3302071 - 10/31/04 06:23 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's the kind I'm actually referring to. Small and able to hold about ten plants or cactuses. It would be nice to have maybe a coule salvia plants, a couple daturas, a couple of morning glories, and maybe some lophophora williamsii or diffusa in there too. At this point I can't really do it because I rent a small apartment. But if I get a townhouse maybe it could work out ok.
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kadakuda
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: World Spirit]
#3302215 - 10/31/04 07:15 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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thsoe things wrok soooo nice for salvia. friend had one like it a while ago and man the things grew fast!
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World Spirit
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: kadakuda]
#3302475 - 10/31/04 08:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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What type of minigreenhouse did he use (brandname or description)? Will he send you a pic you could post? What kind of light(s) were used?
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kadakuda
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: World Spirit]
#3302879 - 10/31/04 10:08 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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he made his. it's pretty similar to neuro's but a little more crude. it was wood to start, and he used 24" flouros. 2 doubles per shelf. i dunno what the plastic was, his grildfriend sews like mad so she made up some weird plasticy stuff for it. it was sorta hard light wieght perfectly clear stuff. it turned out to be bad cause the plastic that was used got brittol, i guess in the light.
i made a couple a long time ago that was a classic greenhouse like faslimy pic. nothing special just wood frame and glass. i got rid of it cause it was big, bulky and weighed a ton. now i jsut use unused vivariums and aquariums....much easier to move about.
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Gr0wer
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: kadakuda]
#3303140 - 10/31/04 11:48 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you want to grow some cactus indoors you really need a 400w+ MH. I woulnt waste your time gorwing datura and morning glories indoors, morning glories grow like weeds once they get introduced to a nice spot. You can start the morning glory and datura seeds indoors in spring but that only takes about 2 square feet or ~70w of hid/floro lighting to veg for a month or so.
Pedros only grow to about 2" dia under floros from my own experiences, and im sure peyote is equally as slow under floros compared to MH or under the sun.
It's much simpiler and cleaner to throw up a 400w+ MH and have the main garden under that. Have the peyote in the center with some pedros, torches, then salvia. Up agaist the walls with tops at or above lamp level have a few tree ethenos like HBW, krantom, yopo, and any other your intrested in.
Then to the side have 40-180w of floros for rooting, starting seedlings, and to grow moms or low priority plants.
Take neuros setup for example, the lighting isnt even across all the plants and cactus and the system looks a bit messy. You could get away with one 250w MH horizontaly hung with a reflector. You could arrange the plants on the bottom two shelves down on the ground right under light. Take the lareg plants on the side and split them on eitehr side of the smaller plants and have the plants on the top shelf somewhere in the middle or back. If you want more humidity you can cover some thin plywood and mylar or white paint and mabey some clear plastic or plexy for the front door.
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kadakuda
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: Gr0wer]
#3303186 - 11/01/04 12:10 AM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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i totally agree with you. but i have never seen salvia do better than my buddies did in that thing. it was poifect! he got a good 6"+ a month. also worked really good for starting seeds. thats about all he used it for. but i use flouros for everything. you can get any part of the spectrum in them so i dunno why people dont liek them as much, aside from needing lots of them.
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Gr0wer
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Re: I'd like to learn about indoor minigreenhouses [Re: kadakuda]
#3306245 - 11/01/04 06:49 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea for salvia it would be great but for growing an etheno variety your better off without one.
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