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Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 * 1
    #28632700 - 01/23/24 10:23 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

https://hightimes.com/news/proposal-in-washington-seeks-to-raise-legal-cannabis-age-to-25/amp/



In 1996, California was the first state to legalize medical marijuana. Following this, 40 states along with the District of Columbia have legalized the medical application of cannabis. Additionally, the District of Columbia and 24 states have allowed cannabis for recreational or adult-use (although four have yet to launch their commercial retail markets). In all of these instances, as with alcohol, the age allowed to use cannabis is 21. But in Washington, there’s a bill that specifically proposes raising the minimum legal sale age for cannabis products with more than 35% THC concentration to 25 years, with an exemption for qualified patients and designated medical providers.

House Bill 2320, addressing “high-THC cannabis products,” was introduced in the Washington state House Committee on Regulated Substances and Gaming by Representatives Lauren Davis, D-Shoreline, and Tom Dent, R-Moses Lake, on January 11, with a public hearing on January 16. They argue that high-THC cannabis products present both physical and mental risks that need to be addressed.

“Today, there’s no legal limit on the potency of the psychoactive element, THC, in cannabis concentrates,” Davis said. “Cannabis vape oils, dabs, and shatter are regularly sold with a THC potency of nearly 100 percent—a ten-fold increase in potency from when cannabis was legalized in 2012. These concentrated products are different. And dangerous,” KOIN 06 reports.

“The cannabis industry has changed considerably since cannabis was legalized,” Dent said. “This legislation is needed to address the everchanging market and put some measures in place to protect cannabis users and our youth.”

As Cannabis Business Times reports, back in November of 2012 Washington, along with Colorado, became the inaugural states to legalize cannabis for adult use. Starting in 2014, both states initiated sales of adult-use cannabis for individuals aged 21 and over. Since then, an additional 18 states have adopted similar legislation. But if the bill passes, that age will rise to 25. Numerous advocates for legalization in the U.S. argue that the age limit for cannabis sales should align with that of alcohol sales. However, legislators in various state governments, holding more conservative views, have advocated raising the cannabis age limit to 25 years. They justify this by citing that human brain development continues up to that age.

While the brain ceases growing in size by your early teens, it doesn’t complete its development and maturation until the mid-to-late 20s. The prefrontal cortex (located behind the forehead) is among the last regions to fully mature. It plays a key role in abilities such as planning, prioritizing, and decision-making. There is some evidence that cannabis can alter the teenage brain, and that one should wait until adulthood to enjoy the substance. However, simply looking at human nature, or how little current prohibition—or to compare, even the drinking age—actually halts consumption, the bill aimed at raising the age of allowed cannabis use from 21 to 25 is somewhat absurd because it won’t change a damn thing other than further stifle legal markets.

The bill’s sponsors argue that their reasoning is backed by the work of scientists from Washington State University and the University of Washington, based on a November 2020 report on “Cannabis Concentration and Health Risks.”

The paper states that: “Use of cannabis with high THC concentration increases the chances of developing cannabis use disorder or addiction to cannabis, particularly among adolescents,” according to the university researchers. “Daily cannabis use, particularly of high potency products, increases the risk of developing a psychotic disorder, like schizophrenia, and is related to an earlier onset of symptoms compared to people who do not use cannabis.”

While such language is included in the bill, David and Dent kept out the part that such evidence is talking about the effects of THC on those between the ages of 14 and 19, not 21 to 25, the age of adults that would be affected by the bill if it passes.

The bill would also require Washington’s Department of Health to create voluntary training programs for retail cannabis staff on potential health and safety affects and requires the University of Washington’s Addictions, Drug & Alcohol Institute (ADAI) to put into effect guidelines for healthcare providers and patients deemed “at risk of severe complications from cannabis use.”

Another day, another expensive, red-taped-riddled waste of taxpayer money created by fudging with science that could otherwise be useful.


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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: JonBongGroovy] * 1
    #28632884 - 01/24/24 06:10 AM (3 months, 23 days ago)

I'm actually not totally against this, but...high alcohol% products first. Any beer over 6%, any wine over 12% with limits on sugar content, any distilled products.

And maybe instead of raising the age for high THC products as a first measure you could require that anything over a certain amount, possibly even lower than 35%, must have equal or more the amount of CBD...flower either exempt or with a lower CBD threshold. Reserve the higher age for THC products over 50%

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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: Holybullshit] * 2
    #28633321 - 01/24/24 01:14 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

At what age is someone supposed to sign up for conscription or to pay income taxes... :whistling:

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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28633360 - 01/24/24 01:50 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

At whatever age their democratic government decides.

But I guess you'd rather us be ruled by corporations and private military forces. Who needs due process and freedom of speech anyways?

Just look to Central and South America and their cartels to see what happens when you don't have a strong democratic government.(and don't mistake powerful for strong, or that every government with elections is truly democracy) Or the tribal territorial disputes in Africa. At what age should people become child soldiers fighting for warlords who killed their parents?

Things weren't exactly great medicine wise before the FDA either. But I guess you long for the days of mothers poisoning there sick children with God knows what from laudanum(if they were lucky) to lead. Or when entire populations, grown and small, went about their days half drunk and dependent on alcohol.

If we had Utopia on Earth then libertarianism might work, unfortunately we live in reality... Where anarchism leads to anarchy, violence, and cruel domination.

Having a vote is much better than not having one, trust me.

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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: Holybullshit] * 2
    #28633374 - 01/24/24 01:56 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

Quote:

At whatever age Democratic government decides.





Not that you personally voted on so many of these laws, but is there anything the "Democratic government" is not allowed to decide, in your worldview?

None of my milquetoast kind-of neighbors consider me to be problematic on any level.

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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: JonBongGroovy] * 2
    #28633426 - 01/24/24 02:48 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

That’s a hard pass from me.
Lots of other people too. There’s nothing else that has a higher than 21 age limit on it that I’m aware of in the country. This would be the one single exception in one state that’s had marijuana legal for a really long time now.

This would also establish that marijuana is worse for you than alcohol. Which is completely false.

Edited by GenesisCorrupted (01/25/24 01:44 AM)

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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
    #28633525 - 01/24/24 04:43 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

Yes we don't want people to start expanding their minds until AFTER they've completed college and are entrenched in bottomless debt and soul sucking jobs they can't escape.


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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: Holybullshit] * 1
    #28633573 - 01/24/24 05:13 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

Delphi Method or democratic govt; both are consensus building, using the same functions.

Since we're ok with the fickle will of the mob (or of facilitators), how can the truth be different from one day to the next. What if people democratically decide that something totally different is acceptable tomorrow?

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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28633664 - 01/24/24 06:34 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

Seems like the issue is more about potency than anything else.


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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28633927 - 01/25/24 12:43 AM (3 months, 22 days ago)

Legalize all drugs but the legal age for everything is 25 would be something I'd be willing to accept because I do think approaching things from a brain development angle is a pretty reasonable scientific way of determining a legal age. But alcohol would have to be included in this cus that affects youth brain development too (and probably more than weed does).

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Re: Proposal in Washington Seeks to Raise Legal Cannabis Age to 25 [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28634611 - 01/25/24 02:53 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

(Inflammation and negative ideation affect brain development and well being in adults.)

My parents had fed and clothed me, at least.

I was nearly taken over a little debris in an ash tray.

One day, it's legit, one day, it's not.

Part of the annoyance for me is not just one set of rules that I don't like. It's  not that I'm living under a dictatorship, but a capricious attitude. Whether they are being judgy or patronizing, they are orders followers, who have to read the manual to know whether something is conscionable. 

And, they'll take you and your things and your family.

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