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Mycelial Colonization of Jar
    #28626941 - 01/19/24 09:43 AM (8 days, 17 hours ago)

Mycelium only colonizes the jar if it’s kept in the dark?


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Re: Mycelial Colonization of Jar [Re: Buckthorn]
    #28626947 - 01/19/24 09:48 AM (8 days, 17 hours ago)

It can colonize being in the light. And people can and will go back and forth on this issue but in my experience, my jars colonize faster in the dark and with more rhizo growth than identical jars with the same LC.

Right now I have 2 jars that just got ready at the same time. One is from 12-22 and the other is from 1-1. Guess which one was in the dark.


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Re: Mycelial Colonization of Jar [Re: Buckthorn]
    #28626954 - 01/19/24 09:52 AM (8 days, 17 hours ago)

These days are gone :wink:
That was to resemble nature,
so forming underground in total darkness.

Spending ambient light from day 1
speeds up the whole process,
so colonization in darkness isn´t necessary.

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Re: Mycelial Colonization of Jar [Re: Goatrider]
    #28626963 - 01/19/24 09:59 AM (8 days, 17 hours ago)

Let me rephrase this. Six jars 3 of which were inoculated on 12-22 the other 3 were 1-1 all from the same LC. The 12-22 sat in a room with a 40w fluorescent light and the 1-1 was put in a dark cabinet from the beginning.

All jars showed myc at 5 days. At 14 days the 1-1 batch was further along than 12-22 was at 21 days. The 1-1 batch was mostly rhizo growth and the 12-22 was mostly tomentose.

Now they are all finishing up at the same time and I'm birthing either today or tomorrow except for 1 of the 1-1 jars which is at about 90%.

When I do this again they will all be in the dark from the start - until I find out what else it is that accounts for this difference.


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Re: Mycelial Colonization of Jar [Re: metaneuralnetwork]
    #28626998 - 01/19/24 10:21 AM (8 days, 17 hours ago)

All that darkness stuff doesn´t make sense to me.
I mean, i don´t inoculate in total darkness,
neither are my agar works in total darkness.

Another former practice was to wrap the entire tub
in a trashbag and let it do there for about 10 days,
going straight into fruiting mode from there.

Nowadays light from day one,
we spawn to tubs for "growing conditions",
so we let myc decide when its time to fruit.

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Re: Mycelial Colonization of Jar [Re: Goatrider]
    #28627011 - 01/19/24 10:35 AM (8 days, 16 hours ago)

Innoculating in the light and my living and growing its entire life in the light are entirely different things.

I don't have an opinion on light and dark for myc colonization. I don't know enough about it to say either way. I wasn't even setting out to do a comparison of light vs dark, this is just what happened in the course of establishing my grow. My first grow. I just point that out to stress I don't have a strong opinion or a lot of experience on this. Furthermore, the search function reveals endless debate back and forth. I know. I've looked.

And even now I would hesitate to say that the difference in the jars is on account of light - the sample group is too small and accidental to make any reliable conclusions based on that alone.

But since it doesn't hurt to be in the dark, I'm personally going to err on the side that at least appears to be doing better. For now.


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Re: Mycelial Colonization of Jar [Re: metaneuralnetwork]
    #28627016 - 01/19/24 10:37 AM (8 days, 16 hours ago)

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metaneuralnetwork said:
It can colonize being in the light. And people can and will go back and forth on this issue but in my experience, my jars colonize faster in the dark and with more rhizo growth than identical jars with the same LC.

Right now I have 2 jars that just got ready at the same time. One is from 12-22 and the other is from 1-1. Guess which one was in the dark.






Grown in strong light 12/12 cycle.

Rhizo is genetics/nute content/substrate texture dependent mostly, and light cycles give them a proper circadian rhythm which they are sensitive to.


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Re: Mycelial Colonization of Jar [Re: MrJong]
    #28627018 - 01/19/24 10:40 AM (8 days, 16 hours ago)

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MrJong said:
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metaneuralnetwork said:
It can colonize being in the light. And people can and will go back and forth on this issue but in my experience, my jars colonize faster in the dark and with more rhizo growth than identical jars with the same LC.

Right now I have 2 jars that just got ready at the same time. One is from 12-22 and the other is from 1-1. Guess which one was in the dark.






Grown in strong light 12/12 cycle.

Rhizo is genetics/nute content/substrate texture dependent mostly, and light cycles give them a proper circadian rhythm which they are sensitive to.




Read my other posts on this thread. Nothing here is contrary to anything I said.


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