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The Official Ukraine War Thread. 12
#27671584 - 02/24/22 11:31 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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At the request of Near Dylan. Discuss Argue and propagandize here.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: nooneman] 4
#27671591 - 02/24/22 11:36 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anybody else seeing a giant conspiracy theory developing, first with China releasing the Corona Virus and then Russia invading Ukraine...Both of them with a massive long term plans to exert their world dominance?
It's really interesting that Russia launched massive cyber DDOS attacks all over Ukraine right before and leading up to and into the invasion.
It's a blatant middle finger to Ukraine and the entire world, because they are not part of NATO so NATO can't really step in
I hate to say this, but this thing has the workings of the start of world war 3.
FUor fucks sake I thought we had more time .
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Fiery] 4
#27671598 - 02/24/22 11:40 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nah, we're right on schedule if you believe in the 70 year cycle theory.
Personally, I think the cycle is related to life expectancy: once most of the veterans die off and living memory fades, the war begins again.
If I was you, I'd start working on a plan to avoid getting drafted.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: nooneman] 2
#27671615 - 02/24/22 11:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looks grim. I think Putin made a stupid move, but not WW3 stupid. Sanctions won't cripple Russia.
As far as conspiracy theories, I don't think that covid is a part of any global domination plan. We've probably been able to manufacture much more scary bioweapons for a long time.
I think Russia is securing resources and strategic position. Nobody wants WW3, nobody sane at least.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Kryptos] 1
#27671616 - 02/24/22 11:47 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Biden is live right now blabbing about it
I'm sure putin is quivering over some sanctions and empty threats
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#27671630 - 02/24/22 11:59 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Biden can't get through one sentence without fumbling his words or making a statement that makes no sense grammatically.
What an embarrassing leader to have right now..
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Near Dylan] 2
#27671637 - 02/24/22 12:04 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Given the terrible choice, i would feel more confident with Trump as the POTUS in this situation. Bidens drooling-tarded inability to speak feels very unreliable and unsecure lol. He sounds like hes going to pull a Stalin and suddenly run and hide in disbelief and shock
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Imagine if presidential candidacy required an IQ test. Imagine if education in the US was better funded. Imagine if furthering your education didn't seriously indebt you. We could do this. But we don't.
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insanebloodbrain said: Given the terrible choice, i would feel more confident with Trump as the POTUS in this situation. Bidens drooling-tarded inability to speak feels very unreliable and unsecure lol. He sounds like hes going to pull a Stalin and suddenly run and hide in disbelief and shock
If Trump was president he'd either have left NATO and allied with Putin, or would've launched nukes at them by now
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Near Dylan] 1
#27671674 - 02/24/22 12:32 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said:
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insanebloodbrain said: Given the terrible choice, i would feel more confident with Trump as the POTUS in this situation. Bidens drooling-tarded inability to speak feels very unreliable and unsecure lol. He sounds like hes going to pull a Stalin and suddenly run and hide in disbelief and shock
If Trump was president he'd either have left NATO and allied with Putin, or would've launched nukes at them by now
if trump was president we would not be having this conversation. Like i said biden is weak president an its time for china an Russia to make moves while they have the chance.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: MorphinTime] 1
#27671678 - 02/24/22 12:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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MorphinTime said: Looks grim. I think Putin made a stupid move, but not WW3 stupid. Sanctions won't cripple Russia.
As far as conspiracy theories, I don't think that covid is a part of any global domination plan. We've probably been able to manufacture much more scary bioweapons for a long time.
I think Russia is securing resources and strategic position. Nobody wants WW3, nobody sane at least.
Their stock market is down over 50%
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: budmanman] 1
#27671760 - 02/24/22 01:33 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think they were well aware of that being an eventuality before the decision was made to attack. Ukrainians and Russians and a lot of Europeans will suffer initially (economically), but sanctions won't cripple Russia.
I am not pro Russia, BTW.
Ukraine might be the last land grab NATO allows without outright military getting sent to action. Idk, seems like the Cold War is hot again
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: MorphinTime] 2
#27671936 - 02/24/22 04:17 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Worst part no one helping! History repeats itself. Just 7 years ago Maidan happened and what West did? Oh we condemn the use of force... It's like telling a child don't touch matches and then turning away from it. Bunch of c***. It's not the leaders who are suffering it's the people. Every country which became independent from former USSR shed blood and no one came to help. Just look at the history of 90's. Anti-war protests in Russia and ppl getting arrested! Putin needs to be stopped
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Deepfreeze] 2
#27671976 - 02/24/22 05:02 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Deepfreeze said: Just 7 years ago Maidan happened and what West did?
The US orchestrated Euromaidan. Evidence here.
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Good thing you changed the thread from the original "discuss" 
Man what the fuck
Why can't we just live our fucking lives without all these fuck heads fucking shit up
Guess this is what happens when we live the way we live
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Enkidu] 1
#27672047 - 02/24/22 05:51 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I don't think it would have been unreasonable for the US to have agreed to never incorporate Ukraine into NATO. It's on Russia's border, for God's sake, of course they don't want NATO right up their ass. Maybe a better historian can answer this, but didn't the US agree to not expand NATO anyway sometime around the end of the Cold War?
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Blue Cthulhu] 1
#27672060 - 02/24/22 05:58 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Blue Cthulhu said: I don't think it would have been unreasonable for the US to have agreed to never incorporate Ukraine into NATO. It's on Russia's border, for God's sake, of course they don't want NATO right up their ass.
Exactly. 
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Blue Cthulhu said: Maybe a better historian can answer this, but didn't the US agree to not expand NATO anyway sometime around the end of the Cold War?
The US agreed not to expand NATO eastward around the time East Germany reunited with West Germany.
West promised not to expand NATO
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Thank you! Obviously already violated since Poland is a NATO member.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Blue Cthulhu] 1
#27672096 - 02/24/22 06:19 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Russian today site not loading.
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Re: The Official Ukraine War Thread. [Re: Blue Cthulhu] 1
#27672119 - 02/24/22 06:31 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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Blue Cthulhu said: Thank you! Obviously already violated since Poland is a NATO member.
Not just Poland. Here's a map of countries that have joined NATO since our promise. You can see why Russia wouldn't want Ukraine to join:
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