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Offlinemagissa
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Can men and women be just friends?
    #2630742 - 05/03/04 03:28 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

hey guys im doing research on whether men and women can be friends without attraction getting in the the way. so if your over 18, heterosexual and have a friend of the opposite sex could you pleaseeeee do my online survey. hopefully we can finally get some answers!

thanks

http://www.media.swin.edu.au/surveyor/survey.asp?s=01237222228079097

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OfflineLightningfractal
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: magissa]
    #2630743 - 05/03/04 03:29 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

NO CROSSPOSTING ALLOWED :whack:


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InvisibleKrishna
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: magissa]
    #2630809 - 05/03/04 05:08 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

i'd say yes but am too lazy to take a survey about it :smile:


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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: magissa]
    #2630841 - 05/03/04 06:14 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

no way


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Offlinefilthysock
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: magissa]
    #2631168 - 05/03/04 09:01 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I did... it went well.
Well, at the beginning, I was thinking,
"damn she's fine, fancy getting to know her"
Then, when I got to know her, we became very good friends... its been a couple of years and I still really miss her, she was a great friend, but I cant say I didnt ever just want to have sex with her, sometimes it was killing me... I guess you cant.
You, or the girl has to say "no" to having sex, either that or manage having sex and remaining friends... but if thats possible... well thats another thing.


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OfflineDoctorJ
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: magissa]
    #2631398 - 05/03/04 10:24 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

that survey was so whack.

it had way to many questions on it with 2 propositions, even though it only let you asses those propositions once.

for example:

"I am attracted to ___ but I don't want a relationship with ___."

then it asks you to rate the statement from 1 to 7, 1 being "not true" and 7 being "very true"

but let me ask you this, bitch:

WHAT IF I'M NOT ATTRACTED TO HER, and I DONT WANT A RELATIONSHIP? how does my 1-7 rate capture the essence of my opinion? WHAT IF I AM NOT ATTRACTED TO HER AND DO WANT A RELATIONSHIP? How does your 1-7 shit work then?

again: 2 propositions are made, and yet only one means of evaluation is given. this could seriously fuck with your data. And it is confusing for participants.

Way to isolate the variables dumbass. And you call yourself an HONORS student? From now on I'm blackballing your entire university. stupid aussies. go back to wrestling alligators.

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OfflineViveka
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2631430 - 05/03/04 10:39 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Dude,  :bong: hit this shit.....

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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2631569 - 05/03/04 11:29 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

be nice now


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Offlinefilthysock
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: Viveka]
    #2631576 - 05/03/04 11:31 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

EvilEye? said:
Dude,  :bong: hit this shit.....




:rotfl:... right on :thumbup:


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OfflineDoctorJ
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: Ripple]
    #2631584 - 05/03/04 11:34 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Ripple said:
be nice now




there is no "nice" in science.

if she doesnt hear it from me now, she's going to hear it from other scientists when she tries to publish this "research"

who would you rather be criticized by:

esteemed scientists

or

some nut on a shroom site?

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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2631601 - 05/03/04 11:41 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I happen to agree with the good doc on this one - if you're gonna try an do something like this then you can't have questions that force answers which may not be applicable

I forget the technical term for this sort of thing, but I know it has something to do with inadvertantly creating false results by not allowing people the opportunity to reply truethfully...simply because the wording of such questions prevents certain answers from ever being given (I think multiple choice answers are most famous for this sort of thing)



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Thus Spake Muppet


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InvisiblePhencyclidine
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: magissa]
    #2632213 - 05/03/04 02:16 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Stupid question, IMO.

Even if you really want to have more than just a friendship with a friend of the opposite sex, then you're still just friends. What about a gay man and a lesbian woman?

Of course, I suspect that anyone who disagrees with me saying that the answer is obviously yes will try to redefine friendship.

So the first thing we really need is a definition of friendship that we can all agree on.

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Offlinephi1618
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: Phencyclidine]
    #2632341 - 05/03/04 02:41 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

'Just Freinds' clearly means people who like each other, but between whom there is no sexual tension.

For example, say you see a couple of fraternity boys wrestling in the Student Union. One of them throws the other face down on the ground, sits on his ass, and rapidly and repeatedly repositions himself to try and get get a better grip. Those two are clearly 'just freinds,' demonstrating their manly vigour.

Now, say you meet a girl in class. You work on a project together, eat together, but never sleep with her. The overwhelming sexual tension inherent in this situation clearly shows that you're not 'just freinds.'

Got it?

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InvisiblePhencyclidine
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: phi1618]
    #2632566 - 05/03/04 03:21 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

phi1618 said:
Now, say you meet a girl in class. You work on a project together, eat together, but never sleep with her. The overwhelming sexual tension inherent in this situation clearly shows that you're not 'just freinds.'

Got it?




Yes, I get it, but I disagree on your definition of "just friends." I would argue that they are still just friends, even though there is sexual tension.

Though, perhaps you could clarify further:
How does the sexual tension in the relationship make itself known? What forms does it take? Do both parties have to be aware of it?

In the example with the males, doesn't a demonstration of manly vigor to another male serve as an indication of sexual tension?

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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: phi1618]
    #2632621 - 05/03/04 03:31 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

'Just Freinds' clearly means people who like each other, but between whom there is no sexual tension.



And you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Friends are people who like each other and hang out together, but have no exclusive commitment to each other. There can be sexual tension, and there can even be sex(a status known as "friends with benefits"), but no commitment.


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OfflineDoctorJ
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2632657 - 05/03/04 03:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

and this is a good example of why self-reporting and survey-based research is bunk. Subjective interpretation of terms that are supposed to be objective.

that and the fact that 90% of the subjects that fill these things out are psych students just trying to fulfill research credits. Last time I participated in one of these things I made sure to consider each question and provide an appropriate answer. I was always the last to finish. I'm a pretty fast reader, so I'm pretty sure the other people were just bubbling random answers so they could get out of there faster.

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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: magissa]
    #2632988 - 05/03/04 04:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

this is so weird, talk about coincidences. just the other day at another forum some one posted the exact same topic (with no research link though) and its odd because im in a situation right now where im "friends" with a girl i am very attracted too. i know she had a bf but i think things may have changed, and i get the sense that she might be interested but i have no idea how to approach the situation. its kind of tearing me up on the inside, i wish i could just be open about my feelings without making everything awkward, though im sure she already knows i have a thing for her....

*sigh*


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OfflineKingkole
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: TheDude]
    #2633188 - 05/03/04 05:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

i have tons of friends that are girls. they are by no means ugly there pretty damn hot.

Just last night one of em sorta passed out on my leg. I held her up all night but was i ever turned on or atracted to her? No. i would have done the same for my gay friends.

I also walked some girls home a couple nights ago, Was i waiting a invite? no. I wouldnt have turned her down if she had asked my but my main concern was getting her home safely.

Most guys cant think past their own dicks but i guess i can. :penis:


Edited by Kingkole (05/03/04 05:20 PM)

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InvisibleTheDude
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Re: Can men and women be just friends? [Re: Kingkole]
    #2633232 - 05/03/04 05:28 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

but thats the thing, my dick has nothing to do with this one.  i mean, she's attractive but its her personality that i find the most intriguing...

oh well, i have come to accept that my life is one big joke and i try to laugh at these situations which pop up constantly for me....hehe, pop up  :penis:


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