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dry stones...what dosage?
    #2620738 - 04/30/04 09:42 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

i was able to grow some stones and I was wondering about dosage.They are cracker dry and i have 19.5 grams.Is dosage for these the same as any other cube or whats the deal.thnx in advance for any help-LJ

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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2625080 - 05/01/04 09:06 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

any body with any exp with these?I thought the dosage would be the same as with reg. cubes.I mean i normaly eat about 4 grams for cubes but I just waited to make sure....

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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2625140 - 05/01/04 09:17 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

stones are much weaker than cubes, how much im not sure

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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: shriek]
    #2625752 - 05/01/04 11:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

OK. I think fresh stones( im taking it that you are talking about Philosopher Stones/Truffles) are more then twice as strong then fresh cubes and contain less water (50% or something compaired to the 90% of actual mushrooms) there for shouldnt ube using half as many stones as you would fresh ones?

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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: shriek]
    #2625756 - 05/01/04 11:47 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Stones are stronger than mushrooms.How much I do not know,but they are definatly stronger.


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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: ButterNut]
    #2625773 - 05/01/04 11:53 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

well then i have only eaten shitty truffles before because i ate over 40 gram fresh and was on a level 1/2 trip last time and same before that.

hehe that sounds like a half, i mean somewhere between level 1 and 2

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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: shriek]
    #2625792 - 05/01/04 11:59 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I ate a gram and  1/2 the only time i ever ate them and had a crazy trip,pretty close to a level three,so i guess it depends on the stones.  :smile:


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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: ButterNut]
    #2626891 - 05/01/04 04:56 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I heard their dosage depends on their age......but on that note i think we we each eat 3 grams dry. which means if they are not that old we should still have a level 3 trip and well if they are on the potent side  I will see you when I get back  :penis:.Thnx for everones help these are a little harder to find info on so hopfully we can get a little more out their.

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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2626908 - 05/01/04 05:01 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

have fun!!!!


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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2627824 - 05/02/04 12:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Cervantes said
This question gets asked a lot and it is good to know the answer.

How potent is sclerotia when compared with cubensis?

It depends.

Fresh sclerotia is 2x as potent as fresh cubensis... gram for gram.

Dry sclerotia is 2/3 as potent as dry cubensis gram for gram.

"WTF?", you ask.

No, mexicana doesn't lose a HUGE amount of potency when it is dried.

When fresh, Mexicana sclerotia is 30% dry matter and only 70% water. Compare this to a fresh cube which is 90% water and only 10% dry matter. When you eat fresh sclerotia... for every bite you take, you are eating 3X as much fungus per bite than you do when you chew on a fresh cube.

Once dried, the potency comparison changes completely. Without the water, a dry gram of sclerotia is 100% dry matter and a gram of cubensis is 100% dry matter too. Duh! So a dry gram of sclerotia contains the same amount of dry matter as a dry gram of cubensis. Simple.

Dry sclerotia is only 2/3 as potent as dry cubensis.

That is how it is.

What follows is some simple math. Perhaps this will make more sense to some people.

If cubensis potency = 1

Then, sclerotia potency = 2/3 = .66666666666

If fresh sclerotia contains 3X as much dry matter per gram as fresh cubensis,

Then, fresh sclerotia = .66666666666 X 3 = 2

Fresh sclerotis is 2X as potent as cubensis.




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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: muse_sick]
    #2628156 - 05/02/04 02:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

musesicksic......thnx so much for finding that.I was remebered Cervantes post a little while back but i couldn't find it.Thnx so much for finding it he really did a wonderful job of explaining and breaking down the how and why.

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Re: dry stones...what dosage? [Re: littlejohn747]
    #2629019 - 05/02/04 07:40 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Thats a great post, the one two posts ago.

Thats the first lucid description I've heard yet of sclerotia potency. Good job...


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