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1st.time
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Bruising or contamination?
#25162851 - 04/24/18 05:30 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello this is my 1st time growing and I have put my first 6 cakes in the fruiting chamber after about a week and a half I started to get pins, but one of my cakes had a small spot of small uncolonized verm. on the bottom that wasn't colonized it became the same color as the pics i have posted I threw this cake out and cut around the spot to see if it really was contaminated and to my knowledge when looking at it nothing was wrong the inside of the cake was not deep white but had white all through it. Also looking at my other cakes and the pins raised concern as the pins base color was greenish/blue, I'm unsure if this is contamination or bruising, all pics bellow show my cakes and pins that are concerning me. (Pictures are of all 6 cakes all bottom shots since that is where they look contaminated and pic of mushrooms with greenish coloring on them as well) Also any tips on how to clean the chamber if this is a contamination before i put more cakes in the fruiting stage would be appreciated.
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: 1st.time]
#25162920 - 04/24/18 06:02 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just finished birthing and dunking another 4 cakes different strain and before putting them in the chamber I can see this same blue coloring on them does this mean bruising or contamination? when I opened the bags I had the cakes in the smell was pretty strong smelled much different then when I took the cakes out of the jars(I've never smelt healthy colonized cakes so unsure how it should smell). I've read about the wet q-tip/paper towel test to see if its contam or not and it doesn't seem to come off unless I apply a bit of pressure and I've also read that this test is a bunk test and doesn't verify anything PLEASE HELP!!(The white stuff on the bottom of the cakes is perlite, which I had the cakes on it directly until I noticed the color spots now they are on foil)
Edited by 1st.time (04/24/18 06:33 PM)
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: 1st.time]
#25162991 - 04/24/18 06:23 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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If it is greenish as you say, probably is a contaminant. From the pictures alone I would guess it really is some contamination by the “difuse” look on the cake, but its only a guess.
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Enkidu
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: 1st.time]
#25163004 - 04/24/18 06:28 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Should smell like Earth, shouldn't smell bad to you or sour or sweet or anything like that but maybe different people think it smells different
Idk what to make of those white blobs all over that is strange.
Mainly posted so I can find out the results once you get a answer
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Enkidu]
#25163025 - 04/24/18 06:34 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are those cakes covered in perlite?
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163030 - 04/24/18 06:36 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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they aren't covered just the bottom, since I had the cakes directly on the perlite until about 2 days ago.
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: 1st.time]
#25163044 - 04/24/18 06:40 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's what those clumps are bro?
Looks like bruising to me but did see a little yellow or something idk want hesr what pros say.
What's your fruiting chamber ? Proper fae ? You have them on foil or something now ?
Maybe clean off the perlite
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163046 - 04/24/18 06:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry didnt read the whole post first. That perlite on them is drying them out. Keep them on the foil, the blue is from drying out probably. Clean them off, rinse under water, dunk 24 hours, roll in fine course vermiculite. Focus and practice with your surface conditions. Mist cakes directly just to glisten, a fine mist like dew on the grass. Allow to evaporate and repeat.
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163064 - 04/24/18 06:45 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Either way you will definitely see some fruits, got a bunch of pins and fruits going
You think he should wait and finish the first flush before dunking 24 hours...?
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Enkidu]
#25163066 - 04/24/18 06:47 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can dunk pins, just be careful handling so you dont break them off
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163070 - 04/24/18 06:50 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Those cakes need cleaned off and rehydrated, at least get all that perlite off, it will suck them dry.
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163076 - 04/24/18 06:54 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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And you want a casing of vermiculite on them, will make a microclimate and help surface conditions. Results will be way better. Here is example of how you want the surface...
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163084 - 04/24/18 06:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll definitely wipe it off all tonight, I have a lot of pins on top my other question is the new cakes which (ill take pics of tonight and post) have some blue coloring on them as well and I just took them out of their water bags which I let soak for 22 hours. The FAE might be a little low but I usually fan twice a day for a solid 3 minutes and the FAE pump I have turns on every 2 hours for 2-3 hours no holes besides 2 on the chamber tho. Thank you for this information so far really had me stressing
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: 1st.time]
#25163089 - 04/24/18 07:00 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm thinking you're definitely needing holes for proper fae
Probably just bruising man
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Here are my 4 newest cakes that have been in the chamber for 1 day strain is GT, I wiped off the perlite the best I could from the other cakes any advice on getting the pins to grow more on top or the sides mostly seem to be growing on the bottom or was this from being directly on the perlite you think? Heavily appreciate the help so far if you think any of these cakes I should just abort the pins and redo the dunk just state which ones from the last pic rather get a solid grow then limp mushies and weaken the cakes.
Edited by 1st.time (04/24/18 10:40 PM)
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Re: 4 new cakes [Re: 1st.time]
#25163506 - 04/24/18 11:03 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doesn't really matter where they grow,they grow where they're happiest
All about where conditions are right, guessing more humidity lower near the perlite vs on top the cake.
Verm roll might help
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: 1st.time]
#25163719 - 04/25/18 03:41 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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1st.time said: I'll definitely wipe it off all tonight, I have a lot of pins on top my other question is the new cakes which (ill take pics of tonight and post) have some blue coloring on them as well and I just took them out of their water bags which I let soak for 22 hours. The FAE might be a little low but I usually fan twice a day for a solid 3 minutes and the FAE pump I have turns on every 2 hours for 2-3 hours no holes besides 2 on the chamber tho. Thank you for this information so far really had me stressing
Fanning is outdated, get rid of the air pump. Build a proper sgfc https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163723 - 04/25/18 03:42 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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And yea after a dunk you need to roll in verm
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163730 - 04/25/18 03:53 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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All the blue is drying
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Re: Bruising or contamination? [Re: Ama420]
#25163774 - 04/25/18 05:09 AM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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They grow in the microclimates, constant evaporation. The surface is to dry on the cakes so it pins where it is a small humid area. Dont focus on humidity in the chamber but get the surface to glisten and evaporate. This is why the verm roll is a factor. Creates microclimate all over the surface not just under the cake. The perlite is used to keep humidity in chamber and allow evaporation. The airpump and fanning is why they are drying
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