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meltdowner
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LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS
#25096724 - 03/28/18 09:55 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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I want to know what is considered the best and safest 1pint lid for grain to grain transfers when using a SAB. (Still Air Box for rookies here)
Right now, lids are Metal Ball lids with 3 holes drilled. Tyvek underneath and 3M microspore tape over the top of the holes. When I do Grain to Grain transfer I unscrew the lids gently in the SAB then quickly crack lid and toss in grains.
This has been working OK, but the tyvek eventually has to be replaced and so does the microspore. After two PCs, I can't be sure to trust the tyvek or microspore to keep contams out.
Anyone have any advice on creating lids that are long lasting?
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096730 - 03/28/18 09:57 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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meltdowner said: I want to know what is considered the best and safest 1pint lid for grain to grain transfers when using a SAB. (Still Air Box for rookies here)
Right now, lids are Metal Ball lids with 3 holes drilled. Tyvek underneath and 3M microspore tape over the top of the holes. When I do Grain to Grain transfer I unscrew the lids gently in the SAB then quickly crack lid and toss in grains.
This has been working OK, but the tyvek eventually has to be replaced and so does the microspore. After two PCs, I can't be sure to trust the tyvek or microspore to keep contams out.
Anyone have any advice on creating lids that are long lasting?
Miropore is not sufficient. Use polyfill, felt or SFD (good to best)
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096733 - 03/28/18 09:58 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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Synthetic filter discs are real nice. But they cost a bit.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushhiehunter] 1
#25096735 - 03/28/18 09:59 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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In my opinion it doesn't any better than fungi perfecti plastic lids with a hole drilled in them and a snug SFD underneath.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushhiehunter]
#25096737 - 03/28/18 10:00 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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are you using an entire layer of tyvek under the lid??
just use cut out squares over each hole. a few layers of mp tape and its good for at least 5 runs in the pc
wrong pic but shes such a cute kitteh!!
correct pic.
Edited by mushboy (03/28/18 10:01 AM)
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushboy]
#25096749 - 03/28/18 10:05 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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I've been using unmodified plastic Mason jar lids with 0 problems, I also have lids with my own sfd's and ships.
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meltdowner
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushboy]
#25096774 - 03/28/18 10:14 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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mushboy said: are you using an entire layer of tyvek under the lid??
just use cut out squares over each hole. a few layers of mp tape and its good for at least 5 runs in the pc
wrong pic but shes such a cute kitteh!!
correct pic.
Yes, I use tyvek under the entire bottomside of the lid. It's a waste, but what's nice about that is when you unscrew the lid, it lifts the whole otp lid up so I can one hand unscrew and use the other to make the transfer.
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096777 - 03/28/18 10:15 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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thats the exact reason i dont like the entire layer under the lid
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meltdowner
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: elasticaltiger]
#25096784 - 03/28/18 10:17 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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elasticaltiger said: In my opinion it doesn't any better than fungi perfecti plastic lids with a hole drilled in them and a snug SFD underneath.
Ah yea, I saw their site. Rusting lids are another problem. The Ball lids also have a tendency to bend and pop in and out when you don't want them doing that. Like in my SAB!
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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meltdowner
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushboy]
#25096786 - 03/28/18 10:17 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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mushboy said: thats the exact reason i dont like the entire layer under the lid
Are you doing G2G with your lids? You drop them in that tiny whole on top?
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096801 - 03/28/18 10:23 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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haha no, i remove the ring outside the sab(or inside if the lid is bent) wipe with iso, pop each lid first, then crack open and pour in whatever.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushboy]
#25096807 - 03/28/18 10:26 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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mushboy said: haha no, i remove the ring outside the sab(or inside if the lid is bent) wipe with iso, pop each lid first, then crack open and pour in whatever.
Man, cover that bottom with tyvek! lol
Anyway, I was hoping I wouldn't have to buy 100 of these plastic lids. They seem pretty OK. I'll probably stick with what I got for now. Probably buy more tyvek and microspore for 15$. Just a lot of work having to re-do lids every 2 PC. wah wah wah
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096814 - 03/28/18 10:28 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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meltdowner said: Man, cover that bottom with tyvek! lol
i used to. you'll switch after awhile
and its microPORE.. no 's'
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushboy]
#25096853 - 03/28/18 10:40 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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mushboy said:
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meltdowner said: Man, cover that bottom with tyvek! lol
i used to. you'll switch after awhile
and its microPORE.. no 's'
We'll see about that, mushboy. Right after i load it up with MICROSPORE!!!!!!
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096867 - 03/28/18 10:44 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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if you get into LC youll quickly discover why tyvek under the lid is a problem
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: mushboy]
#25096929 - 03/28/18 11:00 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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mushboy said: if you get into LC youll quickly discover why tyvek under the lid is a problem
In that case I would probably create new lids just for that. We'll see. You may be right.
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096946 - 03/28/18 11:05 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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i had an LC either colonize or degrade the tyvek. either way. it created a mess when i tried to open that jar.
like ropes of myc and tyvek glued together.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: Shrooms4life]
#25096958 - 03/28/18 11:11 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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Shrooms4life said: I've been using unmodified plastic Mason jar lids with 0 problems, I also have lids with my own sfd's and ships.
Can you PC these?
-------------------- I'm a Lightweight. I like to eat like two caps at a time.
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096971 - 03/28/18 11:13 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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Best lid for G2G is any lid with gas exchange made correctly
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Re: LIDS LIDS LIDS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS QUESTIONS [Re: meltdowner]
#25096975 - 03/28/18 11:14 AM (6 years, 2 days ago) |
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ya dood. they are made for use with canning jars. they wouldnt sell em if ya couldnt
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