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Nationalism is becoming more popular
    #25016346 - 02/23/18 03:04 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

The idea that a country should have pride in their culture, have borders, and keep low levels of immigration. It seems like people are fed up with the open border one world order.

Poland has more conservative politicians.

The United Kingdom has voted to leave the European Union.

America is celebrating its roots, building borders, and focusing on the average Joe.



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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25016374 - 02/23/18 03:14 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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It seems like people are fed up with the open border one world order.



:lolwut:

We don't have that.


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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25016430 - 02/23/18 03:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Nationalism = bigotry. :cookiemonster:

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25016431 - 02/23/18 03:37 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

We have a nice rusty fence.


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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25016440 - 02/23/18 03:40 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Borders and citizenship are stupid, everybody should be able to go anywhere they want and use whatever social services they need for free.

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: qman] * 1
    #25016444 - 02/23/18 03:42 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

If governments can't afford all of these free social services it's because capitalism is bad, there's plenty of resources for everyone in the world.

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: qman]
    #25016462 - 02/23/18 03:49 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Nationalism = bigotry. :cookiemonster:




People can call me that, but I support strong independent nations.


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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: XUL]
    #25016474 - 02/23/18 03:52 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Nationalism is the only way.

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: qman] * 5
    #25016492 - 02/23/18 04:00 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Borders and citizenship are stupid, everybody should be able to go anywhere they want and use whatever social services they need for free.

If governments can't afford all of these free social services it's because capitalism is bad, there's plenty of resources for everyone in the world.



Those are both some really bad straw man arguments.

Keep enjoying that train ride through strawman country.  Choo choo!


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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: XUL]
    #25016507 - 02/23/18 04:06 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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The idea that a country should have pride in their culture, have borders, and keep low levels of immigration. ...




It makes me feel weird as a Canadian

Love my country, make no mistake about that
but growing up, the census forms would not allow my family to identify as Canadian
instead having to be a mix of European countries we have never been to

then the national image is a confusing mix as well
we embrace First Nations cultures for having such a profound impact on this country
but our 'National History' begins part way through their story

even our flag, with the red maple leaf, could be construed as troubling
when reflecting on the fact that maples growth apparently exploded as a result of Europeans wiping out traditional Native methods of forest cultivation

Living on Canadian land,
but supposed to look to my family history for an identity
in lands that may never be visited

uhhhhh
dunno if anyone outside of Canada can watch this


it is a 40 minute documentary on a tradition in Germany
where people dress up and spend the season celebrating Native American life
due to popularization through German media of a Native figure

what is interesting to me
is it is a bunch of people who have, in a number of cases,
never been to North America
celebrating Native North American values and lifestyle
as they feel it gives them a connection to the land that their national heritage does not provide

the strange/conflicting factor for me personally
is that, at most, part of my family history traces into Native bloodlines
and people would regard me as a white girl 'appropriating' First Nations culture
for attempting to embrace that part of my history, which has a more direct connection to the land of my home
than the family histories across an ocean in Europe

yet people in Germany, who equally love their country
use the traditions as a framework to understand their national identity
despite there being the connections of Germanic tribes that could be traced back to the time of Romans
effectively inhabiting the land beneath their feet

no idea where this post was going anymore, sorry,
just random reflections and stuff
Canada is still a comparatively 'young' country in terms of national heritage

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: Tantrika]
    #25016555 - 02/23/18 04:26 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

Imo nationalism and patriotism are feelings of pride and value for your country/nation. If you have pride in your country then you should be trying to improve it. That means being pragmatic about what policy's should be implemented and adopting an evidence based approach.

There's a lot of great things about America but to use that as an excuse for complacency is anti nationalistic in my opinion. I hope nationalism is getting more popular because more people are re-conceptualizing what nationalism entails but I can only hope.


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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: Skellies]
    #25016643 - 02/23/18 05:00 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

I’m sick and tired of being told to feel guilty just because I am white. I stand up for America first, also. I think America should put America first.

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #25016716 - 02/23/18 05:41 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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qman said:
Borders and citizenship are stupid, everybody should be able to go anywhere they want and use whatever social services they need for free.

If governments can't afford all of these free social services it's because capitalism is bad, there's plenty of resources for everyone in the world.



Those are both some really bad straw man arguments.

Keep enjoying that train ride through strawman country.  Choo choo!




I have been enlightened and now view in the world in an entirely different manner.

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #25016736 - 02/23/18 05:47 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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I’m sick and tired of being told to feel guilty just because I am white. I stand up for America first, also. I think America should put America first.



Who's telling you to feel guilty?  I've NEVER been told that.  Be grateful!


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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #25016760 - 02/23/18 05:57 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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I’m sick and tired of being told to feel guilty just because I am white. I stand up for America first, also. I think America should put America first.




We're all humans and we shouldn't put any group of humans above another group. You should have the same level of concern for people 5000 miles away from you as your own family members. Nationalism is stupid, don't fall for it.

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25016762 - 02/23/18 05:58 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Stealth1Vampire said:
I’m sick and tired of being told to feel guilty just because I am white. I stand up for America first, also. I think America should put America first.



Who's telling you to feel guilty?  I've NEVER been told that.  Be grateful!



Its pretty funny the differences between real life, and internet life. When i go online i hear about rampant racism and rapes, white guilt, male dominance, doom and gloom, the world is ending. 
While im living my life, everything is great and awesome. I never hear about or see the things people are talking about on the internet.  No body actually mentions these things or believe them at all. If it wasnt for the shroomery or YouTube, i wouldn't even have thought anyone would actually think this way

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: qman]
    #25016911 - 02/23/18 06:56 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

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I’m sick and tired of being told to feel guilty just because I am white. I stand up for America first, also. I think America should put America first.




We're all humans and we shouldn't put any group of humans above another group. You should have the same level of concern for people 5000 miles away from you as your own family members. Nationalism is stupid, don't fall for it.




Are you serious right now?


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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: XUL]
    #25017255 - 02/23/18 09:29 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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XUL said:
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qman said:
Quote:

Stealth1Vampire said:
I’m sick and tired of being told to feel guilty just because I am white. I stand up for America first, also. I think America should put America first.




We're all humans and we shouldn't put any group of humans above another group. You should have the same level of concern for people 5000 miles away from you as your own family members. Nationalism is stupid, don't fall for it.




Are you serious right now?




In fact, we shouldn't put humans above other living creatures, why should people get better treatment than a rat?  We're all the same.

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: XUL]
    #25017282 - 02/23/18 09:51 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

And he wonders why people think he's racist (obviously qman's post was bad sarcasm)  :smirk:


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (02/23/18 10:26 PM)

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Re: Nationalism is becoming more popular [Re: qman]
    #25017315 - 02/23/18 10:11 PM (6 years, 1 month ago)

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qman said:
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XUL said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Stealth1Vampire said:
I’m sick and tired of being told to feel guilty just because I am white. I stand up for America first, also. I think America should put America first.




We're all humans and we shouldn't put any group of humans above another group. You should have the same level of concern for people 5000 miles away from you as your own family members. Nationalism is stupid, don't fall for it.




Are you serious right now?




In fact, we shouldn't put humans above other living creatures, why should people get better treatment than a rat?  We're all the same.




sure, but we're the same as rocks and dust and everything else in the universe too.
speaking of trippy shit, did you guys here about the new form of light they invented the other day?
check this shit out if you want your mind to be blown


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