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 eldearmano
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 Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) 
#24378755 - 06/05/17 07:39 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright first the cultures... there's 3 that have the long ropey mycelial growth that "they" say you need to look for. It's really hard to take pics in these jars because of their exquisite design. Transfer again or take it to the grain?
Also, is sorghum any different from rye in how it is prepared? I figured I would soak for 6 hours or so, strain, add to water, bring to boil, wait 30 minutes and strain again. put into jars, PC. ya.
thoughts?
    
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: eldearmano]
#24378836 - 06/05/17 08:21 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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There isn't terribly much info on sorghum as grain spawn and I have yet to see someone try sorghum / milo / rye side by side to see how they compare. Most people that have used it on these forums say it performs as well as rye, while others swear by it. You can prepare them with RogerRabbit's Rye Grain tek just the same.
P.S. Red Milo is red sorghum.
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eldearmano
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: Rapjack]
#24378892 - 06/05/17 08:36 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Rapjack said:
There isn't terribly much info on sorghum as grain spawn and I have yet to see someone try sorghum / milo / rye side by side to see how they compare. Most people that have used it on these forums say it performs as well as rye, while others swear by it. You can prepare them with RogerRabbit's Rye Grain tek just the same.
P.S. Red Milo is red sorghum.
AHH ok, cool, I can get either one. I tried the red stuff first but don't think I let it boil long enough
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: eldearmano]
#24378965 - 06/05/17 08:57 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hell yeah! Post results!!
Some people say red sorghum is superior to white for it's nutritional content, but once again I haven't seen this tested.
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eldearmano
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: Rapjack]
#24379004 - 06/05/17 09:09 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dunno if I have the right control variables to make anything statistically relevant... I'll start with the white stuff to get a feel for it... also because I have it on hand. I ruined all the red stuff, good news is it is cheap as chips!
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: eldearmano]
#24379012 - 06/05/17 09:12 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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how do you ruin it?
soak it 24hrs. drain. load slightly wet. pc 15psi 2hrs. let sit 24hrs. perfect.
milo/millet.. sorghum.. WBS shit. do not add heat. just soak. adding heat is a variable you do not need.
make it right the first time with a soak, know what to look for. then add heat for the next batches.
otherwise you are blindly guessing when its done unless youve made it a billion times.
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eldearmano
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: mushboy]
#24379089 - 06/05/17 09:37 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I did this the last time - let it sit for 24 hours and then straight to PC after a paper towel dry. Mycelium didn't run, substrate was too dry from what I saw. I'll try the soak for 24 hours with the white, and see what happens.
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: eldearmano]
#24379115 - 06/05/17 09:45 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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soaked 24hrs? the grains were not dry. the myc didnt run??
maybe the inoculate was fucked? those plates look awful honestly. overgrown and reactionary looking. id take more transfers and dont let them grow out.
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eldearmano
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: mushboy]
#24380268 - 06/05/17 05:32 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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don't you want it fully colonized before you transfer a wedge to agar?
I'm going to try it again, tomorrow I'll PC and see how it goes.
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: mushboy]
#24381609 - 06/06/17 07:14 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
soaked 24hrs? the grains were not dry. the myc didnt run??
maybe the inoculate was fucked? those plates look awful honestly. overgrown and reactionary looking. id take more transfers and dont let them grow out.
How do you mean reactionary? Overgrown, perhaps if the mission was to transfer to agar. but I was hoping these were clean enough to inoculate.
There's no black or green shit in them this time, which is 100% better than the last trial I did.
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: eldearmano]
#24381622 - 06/06/17 07:19 AM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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I made jars and jars of millet, quinoa, and sorghum.
They all grew fine, but had a lot of sludge that required cleaning off when Spawning. Always like That, so I moved to rye.
Maybe a mixture would be better?
I did straight millet, which was the sludgiest, sorghum was much better, quinoa was sticky.
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: mynakedrat]
#24394105 - 06/10/17 03:02 PM (6 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: eldearmano]
#24403078 - 06/13/17 05:25 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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update day 3
   
I drop the piece in and shake a little bit after the seal is tight.
There's a few areas of concern, one of them is in the picture.
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: eldearmano]
#24403301 - 06/13/17 06:42 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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In the future don't let your cultures hit the edge of the plate, 2/3rds of the plates tops
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: mushpunx]
#24403441 - 06/13/17 07:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use rye and millet (seperately) all the time. The rye available to me seems to have a high endospore count, but it colonizes fast. Millet, however is clean. I never even rinse it, just throw boiling water in a bucket and let it sit until the next day when I get off work. Drain and pc for 2 hours. Love it.
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eldearmano
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: mushpunx]
#24405815 - 06/14/17 04:45 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
mushpunx said:
In the future don't let your cultures hit the edge of the plate, 2/3rds of the plates tops
will do. i made more.plates to try another transfer. i read on here it can take up to 6 transfers. but i feel like im getting better at it. good practice
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: Kenetic]
#24405819 - 06/14/17 04:46 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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if mush's 24 hour soak doesnt work ill give it a try.
thanks hermanos!
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: mushpunx]
#24405895 - 06/14/17 05:12 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
mushpunx said:
In the future don't let your cultures hit the edge of the plate, 2/3rds of the plates tops
why's that? will the edge of the plate slow the jump to grains?
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: sandyfountain]
#24406321 - 06/14/17 08:04 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its hard to see contams on a fully colonized plate. Not a deal breaker though
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Re: Can I cut wedges now? Agar to sorghum or milo (whatever that is) [Re: Kenetic]
#24406709 - 06/14/17 11:28 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Kenetic said:
Its hard to see contams on a fully colonized plate. Not a deal breaker though
oh, good. I have a plate that's knotting up and has a pin starting and I didn't have time to get my grains soaked and PCd just yet. Hopefully tomorrow. stupid work getting in the way of fun hobby time
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