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Dr. Jordan B Peterson * 4
    #24298709 - 05/05/17 10:19 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

He's become sort of an icon of Western philosophy as of late whilst battling authoritarian SJW's and anti-free speech leftists. Highly intelligent guy, especially his views on the moral and mythical implications of religious tales and values.


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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: schwarg] * 1
    #24298754 - 05/05/17 10:54 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

O Canada

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: schwarg] * 1
    #24298768 - 05/05/17 11:04 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah he does seem like an interesting guy. He teaches at my university but I have never had occasion to take one of his classes.

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: psi]
    #24298840 - 05/05/17 11:42 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

his material resonates with me. Ive had very similar views as him without a way to properly articulated it.
i dont much follow the sjw drama but i like the breakdown of personality types and archetypes


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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #24298853 - 05/05/17 11:50 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

His appearance on the JRE podcast was really enjoyable...



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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: schwarg]
    #24298861 - 05/05/17 11:54 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

thats how i found him.


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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: schwarg]
    #24299392 - 05/06/17 09:10 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

No leftists are anti-free speech.  We don't want to make your speech illegal.  :rolleyes: We just don't like what you say and we voice our opinions on that. 














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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #24299444 - 05/06/17 09:30 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Learyfan said:
No leftists are anti-free speech.




None at all? That's a pretty bold claim to make about such a varied group of people, unless you're taking a "No true Scotsman" kind of angle with it.

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #24299581 - 05/06/17 10:33 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Learyfan said:
No leftists are anti-free speech.  We don't want to make your speech illegal.  :rolleyes: We just don't like what you say and we voice our opinions on that. 





Unfortunately that's no longer the case as "protesters" have changed for the worst, instead of voicing opinions many are restoring to intimidation and violence.

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: qman]
    #24300167 - 05/06/17 03:32 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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qman said:
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Learyfan said:
No leftists are anti-free speech.  We don't want to make your speech illegal.  :rolleyes: We just don't like what you say and we voice our opinions on that. 





Unfortunately that's no longer the case as "protesters" have changed for the worst, instead of voicing opinions many are restoring to intimidation and violence.



sorta like the Oregon fed takeover terrorists.

(you know, how it barrelled out of control and turned into a "kill police if they try to stop you from taking back MURICA!" type thing?)

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24300190 - 05/06/17 03:45 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, but how many instances like that have there been compared to radical feminists and Marxist leftist groups trying to shut down public speaking events for people having views which they subjectively view as "oppressive"


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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: schwarg]
    #24300212 - 05/06/17 03:58 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Okay, but how many instances like have there been compared to radical feminists and Marxist leftist groups trying to shut down public speaking events for people having views which they subjectively view as "oppressive"




It's not even a fair comparison these days, the radical left wins by a mile.

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: Learyfan] * 1
    #24300312 - 05/06/17 05:18 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Learyfan said:
No leftists are anti-free speech.  We don't want to make your speech illegal.  :rolleyes: We just don't like what you say and we voice our opinions on that.




JP is fighting Canadian legislation that does indeed make speech illegal. Bill C-16. Even jokes about "chicks with dicks" could get you a fine.

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #24300356 - 05/06/17 05:42 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Middleman said:
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Learyfan said:
No leftists are anti-free speech.  We don't want to make your speech illegal.  :rolleyes: We just don't like what you say and we voice our opinions on that.




JP is fighting Canadian legislation that does indeed make speech illegal. Bill C-16. Even jokes about "chicks with dicks" could get you a fine.





Am a fan of Dr. Peterson,
but, despite supporting him in his fight,
because the 'issues' leveled against him are bullshit,
am not particularly concerned about C-16 itself

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This enactment amends the Canadian Human Rights Act to add gender identity and gender expression to the list of prohibited grounds of discrimination.

The enactment also amends the Criminal Code to extend the protection against hate propaganda set out in that Act to any section of the public that is distinguished by gender identity or expression and to clearly set out that evidence that an offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on gender identity or expression constitutes an aggravating circumstance that a court must take into consideration when it imposes a sentence.




https://openparliament.ca/bills/42-1/C-16/

The text that will be modified:
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PART IProscribed Discrimination
General
Marginal note:Prohibited grounds of discrimination

    3 (1) For all purposes of this Act, the prohibited grounds of discrimination are race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, family status, disability and conviction for an offence for which a pardon has been granted or in respect of which a record suspension has been ordered.
    Marginal note:Idem

    (2) Where the ground of discrimination is pregnancy or child-birth, the discrimination shall be deemed to be on the ground of sex.



http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/h-6/page-1.html#h-4

The broader text elucidates the actual ramifications in terms of employment and public services

Making a joke about "chicks with dicks" is not of enormous concern
but if you want to distribute pamphlets on how we should eliminate "chicks with dicks" as subhuman
you're going to face some issues
also you will no longer be able to deny someone a job for being trans
similar to not being able to deny someone a job for being single because you don't want singles working there
:cookiemonster:

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #24300363 - 05/06/17 05:48 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Middleman said:
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Learyfan said:
No leftists are anti-free speech.  We don't want to make your speech illegal.  :rolleyes: We just don't like what you say and we voice our opinions on that.




JP is fighting Canadian legislation that does indeed make speech illegal. Bill C-16. Even jokes about "chicks with dicks" could get you a fine.



and....JP is a liberal.

plus, the notion that you'll be hauled in for uttered "chicks with dicks" is, frankly, hilariously absurd. Canada isn't NatSoc Germany, people. we don't silence people for utterances. the bill is proposed to add two sections regarding gender, one is in regards to advocating for people's genocide (ie, no more "Trans are the devil, they must be wiped out, clean our nation, my kids won't be growing up with any of this!" ect -- then two, is in regards to someone's harassment.

let me give an example of how this one works too.

let's just make this even more interesting, Middleman, and fun, and let's say that you are my-my-muh boy...you're my boy, Bobby, born and raised :hank: -- but now let's say i decided that you were too much of animu loving pussy, that i think you ought to be called a girl from now on....

tell me, what do you think of that? think that should be illegal? do you think that is somewhat of an abuse, psychologically, to the child?

:smirk:

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24300400 - 05/06/17 06:08 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I am a Bobby. lol :bobdobbs: I don't know guys I'm not very interested in the issue. I just noticed the word "jokes" in the bill. :ohwell: I wish JP would just stick to existentialism.

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: Middleman]
    #24300477 - 05/06/17 06:35 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

LOL

yeah, i wish he would to. politics makes me sick.

*jets back to /pol/ with more j00ish takeover memes*

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #24300491 - 05/06/17 06:38 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

He has an annoying voice and demeanor. I hate that people are paying attention to him.

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: cannabinated]
    #24300508 - 05/06/17 06:44 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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cannabinated said:
He has an annoying voice and demeanor. I hate that people are paying attention to him.




I kind of agree about him as a personality/phenomenon, though he's got some points

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Re: Dr. Jordan B Peterson [Re: Ezuma]
    #24300532 - 05/06/17 06:52 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Good points, just boring and elementary...

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