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deltron
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Salvia
#2420300 - 03/11/04 06:11 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey I just bought a half OZ of salvia leaves and yesterday when I smoked it it only gave ma weird mind high with no visuals. I held the lighter on the leaves the whole time, took huge rips, and hold it for 20+ seconds. It seems after like 3 or 4 I get a pretty good buzz but never visuals. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2420345 - 03/11/04 06:24 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm just starting to understand what Salvia is about still I'm a total newbie about it but from what I understand Salvia extract is the real shit.
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temperance
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2420397 - 03/11/04 06:34 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've read that Salvia some times doesn't "come out to play," so to speak, until she's gotten to know you. I only got pretty high off of smoking her the first few times I tried. Then on the fourth time, BAM. I was gone. edit: ps. best avatar ever!
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Edited by temperance (03/11/04 06:34 PM)
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deltron
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lol thanks
Well I've done it 3 times now and it might be getting better but I can't tell. Only a body high still I havent "broken through"
-------------------- Host: I've heard whispers about the financial support your government receives from the drug industry. Peruvian: Well, the irony of this, of course, is that this money, which is in the billions, is coming from your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of our national product, which is of course cocaine. Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States government is spending millions of dollars to eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the same time, we are doing business with the very same goverment that is flooding our streets with cocaine. Peruvian: Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.
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filthysock
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2420462 - 03/11/04 06:53 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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*cough* toy *hark*^^^
Could you do it 4 times in the same hour and it would start to "get to know you"?
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Ravus
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I had the same problem, bought 4 ounces of Sierra leaf and only vaguely worked when I was completely stoned. So I made my own extract using IPA and it worked completely astonishing results. Leaf works for some people, and even if it doesn't it's so much cheaper to make your own extract.
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deltron
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Re: Salvia [Re: Ravus]
#2420581 - 03/11/04 07:27 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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How do I make extract? whats IPA?
-------------------- Host: I've heard whispers about the financial support your government receives from the drug industry. Peruvian: Well, the irony of this, of course, is that this money, which is in the billions, is coming from your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of our national product, which is of course cocaine. Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States government is spending millions of dollars to eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the same time, we are doing business with the very same goverment that is flooding our streets with cocaine. Peruvian: Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.
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HarveyWalbanger
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2420592 - 03/11/04 07:29 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Isopropyl Alcohol
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Ravus
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2420608 - 03/11/04 07:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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You only have 14 grams, maybe less now, so you won't get a lot of extract. IPA is isopropyl alcohol, commonly known as rubbing alcohol, but I hear acetone works wonders with salvia also. Regular drinking alcohol, such as Everclear, also works. Search the Shroomery or Erowid for some instructions on how to make the extract, it really is quite easy and can be easily improvised.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_extraction2.shtml is one of the Erowid extractions.
For me, I just put about 28 grams of Sierra leaf from I Am Shaman into a glass jar, poured about 250-300 mg IPA into it, and let it sit for 3 days, shaking it occassionally. I then filtered out the leaf and dried the acetone onto about 4 grams of leaf, and since an ounce is only $15 for Sierra leaf, and I only paid $.99 for the IPA, this is a way better deal IMO. $16 for 4 grams of 7x .
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deltron
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Re: Salvia [Re: Ravus]
#2420662 - 03/11/04 07:47 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Won't smoking the alcohol kill you?
-------------------- Host: I've heard whispers about the financial support your government receives from the drug industry. Peruvian: Well, the irony of this, of course, is that this money, which is in the billions, is coming from your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of our national product, which is of course cocaine. Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States government is spending millions of dollars to eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the same time, we are doing business with the very same goverment that is flooding our streets with cocaine. Peruvian: Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.
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Ravus
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2420903 - 03/11/04 09:02 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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You evaporate the alcohol completely. I left it out until I couldn't smell even a hint of the isopropyl alcohol. I also heated the IPA to get rid of some of the excess before adding the 4 grams that received the salvinorin.
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Re: Salvia [Re: Ravus]
#2423660 - 03/12/04 11:27 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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lol that homer avatar completely captivated me for a few solid minutes :P
I've tried smoking salvia a few times before but I guess it also didn't "get to know me"
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Triptastical77
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2424747 - 03/12/04 03:38 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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if u want to truly get fucked up, if you want the "salvia high" you need the extract... leaves wont cut it... the only thing u can do for leaves for that effect is to make a quid which iz like horribly insanely disgusting tasting... dont buy leaves people buy the extract if you want the salvia trip...
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valour
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Not necessarily true -- I've had full blown experiences on just the unconcentrated leaf.
People just have no fucking patience.
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schmutzen
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Re: Salvia [Re: valour]
#2425165 - 03/12/04 07:04 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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People just have no fucking patience.
Amen.
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rdnp2035
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2425611 - 03/12/04 10:23 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can confirm the "getting to know you" effect from my own experiences. The first few times I tried to smoke it not too much happened. Then one day I was bent on making it work..I had two bowls ready and was truely packing my lungs. I didn't even need the second bowl, I blasted myself into quite a scene after 3 big hits on a normal bowl. Now all I need is a couple good bong hits for a massive experience...with the leaf that is. My experiences with the leaf make the extracts sound like a psychotic joke, particuarlly the 15-20x, jesus christ...but that's just me. I think it has to do with both your intent and being able to tune yourself into the salvia frequency..it's like it can slip right by you if your not thinking about it right. And god knows how salvia's own intent plays into it.
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2425831 - 03/12/04 11:33 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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EXPLOSION! MY MTE!
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Juggtop
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Just go buy the extract... find a place near you or just get it off the internet. Its worth it to have a standardized extract because you smoke this and you sit around for the next week trying to understand what happened. You wont be running back to it right after you smoke it. These trips are something that defeniately can scare the crap out of you if you arent ready for it and just need some time inbetween to understand what is going on. But goodluck on extracting it and let us know what happened. Oh and use a water bong. Pack a bowl of it and rip it all in one hit and hold it as long as you possibly can and you wont even remember exhaling.
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TinTree
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Re: Salvia [Re: Juggtop]
#2427330 - 03/13/04 12:07 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I almost broke through a couple nights ago. I smoked my first bowl of leaves through a bong with a butane lighter (important), and just felt fairly intoxicated for a little while, which quickly diminished. Upon smoking another bowl, everything began to sort of "flatten out" and space was very distorted. I became focused on a point in front of me and felt incredibly intoxicated... wish I had the chance to smoke more after that, but it wasn't my salvia. Ah well, I have a cutting coming in the mail soon, and then I'll be free to experiment.
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vade
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Re: Salvia [Re: deltron]
#2430830 - 03/14/04 09:41 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn dude! how much did half an once cost??? The salvia i've bought before is an eigth of 15X for fucking 25 bucks at this head shop. Its bullshit and not worth the money. But still when i first tryed salvia i smoked about 3 bowls and on the third one i felt stonned as hell, and the walls began to change colors, it only lasted about 2 minutes but it was awesome. Make sure your smoking it through a clean tall water pipe (BONG) so you can take the biggest hits possible and don't breath any exess air, take a hit, hold it, exhale and take another hit. Keep doing this untill you feel something... or pass out . Also you need to make sure that the water pipe is clean as hell any resin from other substances will cancel out the salvia effects. You can boil the pipe if its not to big or to much of a pain in the ass, thats a good way to make sure its really clean.
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