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fruiting a partially colonize cake
    #2349677 - 02/18/04 10:44 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

I have some jars that seem to have stalled, but there's only a small quarter sized spot on the perimeter of the bottom of the quart jar that isn't colonized. If i crumble and case the rye substrate should i remove this small uncolonized portion or will the mycelium colonize it after i birth the jar? I'm going to incubate the tins with the casings for a couple days before fruiting so will it work?

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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: benjamin]
    #2349711 - 02/18/04 10:57 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

No...there's no need to remove the uncolonized portion of the cake.


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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: benjamin]
    #2349739 - 02/18/04 11:04 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Give it some more time to colonize ... you did say they appeared to "stall" .
Patience grasshopper..Patience is best mastered when one waits !


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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: benjamin]
    #2349750 - 02/18/04 11:05 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

As long as the uncolonized substrate isn't exposed to the air during fruiting, you'll be fine. Since it's under the casing layer there is nothing to worry about.



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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: benjamin]
    #2349757 - 02/18/04 11:06 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

maybe i should take a picture, i'll post one in a moment

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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: simplemachine]
    #2349794 - 02/18/04 11:13 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Not entirely true .
IF this spot is contaminated it will spread into the casing layer . Casing does not act as a barrier , it is just as suseptible to contams .
That is also why you should wait longer , IF not contaminated , just not colonized yet , if you birth prematurely it could become a point of entry for contams , thus becoming harmfull to the entire project .


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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: tripndicular]
    #2349803 - 02/18/04 11:15 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

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Not entirely true .
IF this spot is contaminated it will spread into the casing layer . Casing does not act as a barrier , it is just as suseptible to contams .
That is also why you should wait longer , IF not contaminated , just not colonized yet , if you birth prematurely it could become a point of entry for contams , thus becoming harmfull to the entire project .




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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: benjamin]
    #2349822 - 02/18/04 11:20 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

Heres two colonized and the three i mentioned that seem stalled, see the spots at the bottom, those are the only bare spots.




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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: benjamin]
    #2349843 - 02/18/04 11:27 AM (20 years, 1 month ago)

The bottom photo , jar 3 looks like it could have some ickies , but hard to tell via pics .
Did you ever shake them babies up during colonization ?
I still stand with let them colonize some more , see if myc gets into those spots .
Issolate jar 3 just to be safe , jar 1 looks real nice . Since this is grain , if those spots never colonize try to not use the last inch or so of material , try not to disturb it at all when removing the good colonized material .


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Re: fruiting a partially colonize cake [Re: benjamin]
    #2350516 - 02/18/04 01:51 PM (20 years, 1 month ago)

irs not contams, its just brown from the rye, i didn't rinse a couple batches of grain by mistake. But in any case, whats the best way to get these babies out of the jars, cause the two on top are solid.

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