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Anahata
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Gangster rap 3
#23460549 - 07/20/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you had someone listen to the stuff out there that has never heard they would probly lose their mind. I understand the free speech and most of it is entertainment and performers trying to sell an image but come on, the lyrics to some of the stuff I hear is just evil.
It's even crazier when posting lyrics will get me banned (happened in past)
So which came first the lyrics or the culture?
I can go on for days on why gangster rap is trash but want to hear your thoughts. Are the lyrics provoking the actions or are the horrible actions that have happened thru out humanity being put into an art form?
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Re: Gangster rap [Re: Anahata]
#23460565 - 07/20/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I only enjoy listening to Tech N9ne. Some of it is pretty evil. He does however have much music that is not like that. Such as "One good cry" or I think it may be called "One good time" or you can check out "Why you aint call me"
stuff like that or "Cry baby", it's pretty good and not so typical at all.
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Re: Gangster rap [Re: Anahata] 1
#23460602 - 07/20/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Eh, I'm firmly against any form of hip hoppery.
All of it comes from the same vein. Even with positive lyrics, just glitter on a turd.
Regarding its detrimental effects on society, in my mind they are unequivocal... Glorifying a banal materialist frame of mind...
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Repertoire89 said: All of it comes from the same vein. Even with positive lyrics, just glitter on a turd.
Don't see what you're getting at here man, can you explain?
Personally, I fucking love well made Hip-Hop, it's one of my favourite genres. IMO, what brought it to the limelight after its inception was the accuracy of the social critique of the harsh living conditions those making it were brought up in. I mean just check this out:
It's fucking well done man, whether one enjoys the genre or not the lyrics are hard to argue with.
However at some point a huge swathe of artists in the genre started on about how much money/how many bitches/how many people they killed/etc - I fucking loathe that shit.
The good stuff is still out there, but it seems to be getting rarer, unfortunately.
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natural born Killaz by Dre and ice cube. In that song they rap about cutting people up and busting nuts on dead bodies. It's pretty rad.
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Repertoire89
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Jokeshopbeard said:
I've heard more than enough to maintain my opinion without looking further, hundreds of rappers from back in the day up to now.
Its odd that everyone assumes if you see rap for the degenerative nonsense it is, that you haven't experienced some niche of its darkness.
Just calling a spade a spade.
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trees said: natural born Killaz by Dre and ice cube. In that song they rap about cutting people up and busting nuts on dead bodies. It's pretty rad.
what about brotha lynch hung
dude rapped about eating dead baby guts and storing the corpses of his gang rivals in his freezer so he could grill steaks out of them
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Repertoire89 said: Its odd that everyone assumes if you see rap for the degenerative nonsense it is, that you haven't experienced some niche of its darkness.
Just calling a spade a spade.
I'll agree to disagree here, but strongly disagree with your subjective opinion about it being 'degenerative nonsense'.
A spade to you is not a spade to me, true objectivity is not possible from either of our perspectives.
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Re: Gangster rap [Re: Anahata]
#23460838 - 07/20/16 09:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Anahata said: Are the lyrics provoking the actions or are the horrible actions that have happened thru out humanity being put into an art form?
I had a friend who was a part time dealer, at first he was pretty chill and would eat psychedelic and mainly toke up and sell weed / psychs.
Eventually though as he started making more ridiculous "bro" friends through school he started listening to crap rap and doing/ selling MDMA and coke.
That was when I stopped hanging out with him and I would say the glorification of being a dealer totally pushed him into it sadly
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Repertoire89 said: Eh, I'm firmly against any form of hip hoppery.
All of it comes from the same vein. Even with positive lyrics, just glitter on a turd.
Regarding its detrimental effects on society, in my mind they are unequivocal... Glorifying a banal materialist frame of mind...
im firmly against ur mom
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I've heard more than enough to maintain my opinion without looking further, hundreds of rappers from back in the day up to now.
Its odd that everyone assumes if you see rap for the degenerative nonsense it is, that you haven't experienced some niche of its darkness.
Just calling a spade a spade.
Its funny you say that because you obviously haven't listened to enough hip-hop music to form a good opinion of it. Its such a broad genre of music and probably about half of it is about the complete opposite of what youre claiming its all about. "its darkness"?
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Re: Gangster rap [Re: vandago]
#23460879 - 07/20/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great track Vandago. Not sure if I dig the style but the lyrics were sublime.
-------------------- Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not. --Jac O'keeffe
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I was at my college and I heard someone blaring a song that said "leave a severed head by your bed" I can't imagine what the rest of the song must be
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Run the jewels is so good IMO.
Do you like cats better?
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Re: Gangster rap [Re: vandago] 2
#23460908 - 07/20/16 09:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Music comes from culture. Criminality didn't begin with rap music
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Jokeshopbeard said:
I've heard more than enough to maintain my opinion without looking further, hundreds of rappers from back in the day up to now.
Its odd that everyone assumes if you see rap for the degenerative nonsense it is, that you haven't experienced some niche of its darkness.
Just calling a spade a spade.
Its funny you say that because you obviously haven't listened to enough hip-hop music to form a good opinion of it. Its such a broad genre of music and probably about half of it is about the complete opposite of what youre claiming its all about. "its darkness"?
Oh yes, what an unexpected comment.
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Re: Gangster rap [Re: vandago]
#23460930 - 07/20/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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vandago said: Run the jewels is so good IMO.
Do you like cats better?
Struggled with that one a bit. It's got too much of a 'Trap' style to the backing. I prefer the old school:
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Not everyone has to like rap
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