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Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt)
    #23081037 - 04/03/16 11:20 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Hi all, this is my first post on the forum, and i'd just like to ask a question regarding your experience with cross tolerance between lsd and shrooms, or more specifically 4-aco-dmt. I know many posts ask questions about how taking one the day after the other will result in a degrading of the trip, but i found very mixed answers, with none really answering this specific question, so I decided I'd make my own post to see if anyone has been in a specific scenario in any way and how it turned out for them.

My question is, if one were to take shrooms, or more specifically about 30 mg 4-aco-dmt (from what i gather the same tolerance applies for both), late on a Friday night, and then took 2 doses (approx 300 ug) lsd the following Tuesday morning, would the cross tolerance diminish the effects of the lsd, and if so how significantly?

If it helps, the person has done lsd about 6-7 times with 1 dose each time and 4-aco-dmt once at 15 mg, so this would be a larger amount of both each time, but the person is not looking to get a 1 dose effect from the 2 of LSD.

Any responses will be greatly appreciated, and once again i understand that this general question has been posted many times before, but I'm looking for opinions and experiences regarding this particular scenario.

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Re: Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt) [Re: Totemtripper]
    #23081099 - 04/03/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

DMT doesn't cause much tolerance because it only lasts a few minutes and that doesn't give your receptors time to downregulate in any meaningful way, unless you are using changa which can add a slight tolerance. The 300ug's will be exactly like 300ug's with no noticeable tolerance.


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Re: Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt) [Re: Northerner]
    #23081108 - 04/04/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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DMT doesn't cause much tolerance because it only lasts a few minutes and that doesn't give your receptors time to downregulate in any meaningful way, unless you are using changa which can add a slight tolerance. The 300ug's will be exactly like 300ug's with no noticeable tolerance.




I'm referring to the analogue of DMT, 4-aco-dmt, which is a research chemical that breaks into psilocin in the stomach and causes a trip that is for the most part similar to shrooms, so I'm asking for either experience with cross tolerance between that and LSD, or shrooms and LSD, because from what I understand the tolerance is the same for both substances

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Re: Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt) [Re: Totemtripper]
    #23081113 - 04/04/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Ahh, ok... fairy nuff. Colour me ignorant. :freakout:


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Re: Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt) [Re: Totemtripper]
    #23081115 - 04/04/16 12:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yes there is cross tolerance. LSD is different though because it's structure has characteristics of a phen and a tryptamine. AFAIK it works on more receptors which minimizes cross tolerance to an extent. If you really want to trip often then maybe consider a phenethylamine for your stash.

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Re: Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt) [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23081194 - 04/04/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yes the cross over is little at first. If you doing this cross over once or twice a year its no big deal. The food you ate before would have a bigger effect. But if you do this every three or four days youve have to double the dose about once a month.

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Re: Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt) [Re: tump]
    #23081611 - 04/04/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I took 200 mg of 4aco DMT. Then the next day took 300 mics LSD. Nothing really happened on the L. I barely felt a thing. But then 4 days later I took <200 mics and tripped extremely hard off of it

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Re: Taking lsd several days after shrooms (4-aco-dmt) [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23082068 - 04/04/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for all of the responses so far, guys. From what I'm gathering from this thread so far, it sounds like cross tolerance between the two isn't so intense after a few days and it's more of an issue when people try to do one the day after the other. If this response is consistent, I'll probably stick with the plan. otherwise to avoid jeopardizing the acid, I'd drop the dose on Friday and either take the 2 doses on Tuesday or 1 dose and 15 mg 4-aco an hour or two later, but if i can help it I'd prefer to stick with the original plan

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