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WBS flour
    #2275109 - 01/26/04 03:41 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Now i hear everyone asking all the time if you can use rye flour,and corn flour or wheat lour,ect..and the answer is yes,so i am assuming this would work but i havent read about it.
Can i grind up WBS and use in PF cakes as a BRF substitute?And since one of the main reasons i think that you use Birdseed for is that you can shake it,so would it make sense to use ground birdseed in a cake?

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Re: WBS flour [Re: snatchcakes]
    #2275139 - 01/26/04 03:56 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Ground WBS works, but ground hulled millet is better...the hulls have no nutritional content and just waste space...Check out starters awesome growlogs and the shakeable pf tek---->http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1


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Re: WBS flour [Re: simplemachine]
    #2275400 - 01/26/04 05:23 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

>the hulls have no nutritional content

Hulls consists mainly of cellulose, right?
How comes the hulls don?t have any nutritional content(for P. cubensis mycelium) when we sucessfully grow P. cubensis on straw(which is also mainly cellulose) ?

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Re: WBS flour [Re: Anno]
    #2275463 - 01/26/04 05:47 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Agreed it's an overstatement, but I think my point remains valid. Im sure the hulls provides some nutrition, but not as much as the center of the grain. Thats like the yoke of an egg right? to provide nutes to the sprout while the roots are growing in right? Also do we know that cube mycellium actually uses the straw for food? Or is it just growing into it using the stored nutrition from the spawn?


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Re: WBS flour [Re: simplemachine]
    #2275477 - 01/26/04 05:51 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

>Also do we know that cube mycellium actually uses the straw for food?
We do know, yes.

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Re: WBS flour [Re: Anno]
    #2275491 - 01/26/04 05:55 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

cool, so do you think ground WBS is as efficient (nutrient content/volume) as say millet or brown rice flour?

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Re: WBS flour [Re: simplemachine]
    #2275500 - 01/26/04 05:57 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

I say bags of whole WBS pf sucks

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Re: WBS flour [Re: fee]
    #2275507 - 01/26/04 05:59 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

yeh, but flour is cool if you can't get your hands on a PC.


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Re: WBS flour [Re: fee]
    #2275510 - 01/26/04 06:00 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

>cool, so do you think ground WBS is as efficient (nutrient content/volume) as say millet or brown rice flour?

You are certainly right when you say "Im sure the hulls provides some nutrition, but not as much as the center of the grain."
But to say we must get rid of the hulls because if, that is an overkill.
If you really want more nutrients in the cake, simply use a bit more WBS or millet flour.

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Re: WBS flour [Re: Anno]
    #2275521 - 01/26/04 06:05 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

ok so if i were to grind it and replace the BRF in cakes with it,would it be more nutritional than the brown rice flour less than or the same.
Basicly my question is is WBS used as a substrate just because its shakeable,or because it has more nutrients than BRF also.and would it be worth grinding and using instead of just buying BRF?

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Re: WBS flour [Re: snatchcakes]
    #2275539 - 01/26/04 06:13 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

really I don't know if millet is more nutritional than brown rice, but some people claim stronger shrooms from millet. I never noticed a difference. Grinding WBS is certainly cheaper than buying brf!


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Re: WBS flour [Re: snatchcakes]
    #2275555 - 01/26/04 06:19 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Some people claim that mushrooms grown on WBS are WAY more potent than those grown on BRF.
I can not confirm there would be a dramatic difference, if any.

>is WBS used as a substrate just because its shakeable,or because it has more nutrients than BRF also

I use it as spawn medium because it is shakeable, but I had also used it instead of BRF in cakes. Both from the mixing quality as from the colonization speed point of view, contamination tendency and also the potency(at least with the strains I have) there is no dramatic difference. I always use a pressure cooker though.

>would it be worth grinding and using instead of just buying BRF?
I would use the WBS and grind it if I had this already at home.

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