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anyone know how to beat insomnia?
    #22186647 - 09/04/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

im not sure if what i have is insomnia per say, but every night i stay up a few hours later, every night, so like every other week ill be sleeping at night or day, ect ect.  needless to say it gets annoying as fuck.  problem is alarm clocks don't work for me, and going to sleep early just doesn't work either.  if i go to bed early it will actually take me longer to fall to sleep than it would have if i just stayed up and then went to sleep.  i tried sleeping pills and i slept better i guess but it didn't really help my issue at all really.

the last straw that finally made me seek shroomery doctors is that my cycle was just about to switch back to normal(sleep during night) and instead i overslept all fucking day and fucked it all up so i was right back where i was the previous week

another thing that makes this hard is that i can only sleep on my left side for some stupid reason.  if i sleep on my right side my nose plugs up and i can't breath through it and then my left side near my heart feels funny and somtimes turns into pain i think a torn pec muscle from always laying on it or something, but also seems like something heart related also prolly from always laying on it. my lungs feel like theirs pressure on them like not only is it hard to breath through my nose but my mouth as well.  if i lay on my back the nose problem goes away but all the other shit stays the same

anyways this shit is driving me insane, when i try to wake up before im naturally wanting to wake up, im just so in a daze, i can't think all i can do is fall back to sleep, it feels like it would take every ounce of willpower and it still wouldn't be enough and my mind isn't even there to make that decision in the first place, and if i did manage to get up i feel like i would just feel like shit the entire day


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22186660 - 09/04/15 07:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

If you can't find a normal sleep schedule and can only sleep on one side and even then have problems. You need to see a real medical doctor.

It's one thing if its hard to fall asleep or something. But you might have something bigger then just sleeping.


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22186700 - 09/04/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.

I took my pills over 8 hours ago and am still not asleep. Drugs aren't the miracle answer all, but they're literally the only thing that even gives me a shot.

One of the things people like to suggest the most is exercise.. I can preform back breaking labor all day and will still not sleep. My insomnia is a total lack of being able to fall asleep. Without drugs, my sleep schedule is stay up for 24-36 hours, sleep 2-4 hours, rinse and repeat. Problem is everyone likes to just say they have insomnia these days because they stay up late. That is not insomnia. If you're sleeping a regular schedule (based on the hours of the norm) you don't have insomnia. You just have a sleep cycle that's not synced to the standard norm for society. So tons of people out there like to minimize it or act as if they understand it when they don't. And quite frankly it pisses me off. "Have you tried x?" yes. "Have you tried y?" yes. "Have you tried z?" yes. "Have you tried every other stupid bullshit answer assigned to a letter of the alphabet?" yes. "well I dunno, works for me". Next time it comes up "have you tried x?"........ :crankey: FUCK YOU!!

Insomnia is a bitch. I can't diagnose it over the internet, but if you have it, you'll know. It leaves no doubt.


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Burning Warrior]
    #22186705 - 09/04/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i already talked to them a little about it, but these fucking doctors these days don't really do shit, they just wait for YOU to tell them whats wrong with you and they try to treat what YOU told them.  ive found that when i don't come out and give them what i think is wrong that they almost never say shit or try to treat anything.  they just brush it all off and say im young and don't worry blah blah blah.  so last time i was in i was really pushing these pain by my heart just to get them to do and check something and finally got them to do a heart test thingy and apparently that all checked out ok.  i did mention my sleeping problem and all they said was that some people have trouble sleeping on one said and that its usually because its easier on the heart or some shit like that.

but to me, it seems like my heart is shitty and on one side it just can't keep up, so everything just kind of suffers and shuts down a little

overall they don't really take anything serious, they just play the doctor game safe, try to save money and not actually solve anything.  like i told them i had trouble sleeping but they didn't even perscribe anything for me to at least try, i always gotta ask for shit and tell them what to do.  the doctor should be telling me what they recommend, but they never do and ive had different docs.

like my ear was all fucked up and i told the first doc what i thought it was right off the bat cuss it happened before, ear drum exploded and oozed yellow shit for days.  so i got anti botics.  then went back few weeks later for checkup on it and different doc and he's like oh your ear looks ok not sure what the other doctor seen i didn't have time to read......WHAT you didn't even read it?  jesus christ im thinking.  but this dude said my ear was fine, but i know what happened the last time it felt that way and it wasn't nothing and i know what the other doc said she said she could actually see the fluid behind my eardrum.  anyways this dumb fuck went on to talk some shit about some old blood labs and how he wanted me to get some more bloodwork.  but this asshole didn't even know i was on atkins, and i told them that the last time i had bloodwork and the previous 2 weeks when i was talking to the other doctor.  so not only did he not know that, but he also seemed like he didn't even know what atkins does, it raises the overall cholesteral but lowers the bad shit.  so he seen high cholesteral and thought my numbers were horrible......nothing but idiots

the only thing i will say thow is when im on atkins it seems like i lose circulation to my arms and shit really easy so maybe it is bad i dunno but its hard to trust docs when they are always fishing for you to diagnos shit for them and then don't read any of the fucking notes from 2 weeks prior or i guess my entire dam chart


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22186752 - 09/04/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

well thats why i said i wasn't sure it was insomnia but its gotta be some form of it because it sure as hell isn't normal and sure as hell sucks a big fat dick.  the point is when i want to go to sleep i can't, if i try ill toss and turn forever.  and having a sleep cycle that is always changing sucks so bad, it means i can't ever do anything that requires a schedule.  this shit basically started in highschool my mom had to wake me up everyday and even then id still end up late, missing classes, regualarly every week.  i skipped the most classes out of everyone, i prolly skipped more than everyone put together.  i missed first period 2 or 3 times a week, and was late all the other days, and id miss an entire day of school almost every week.

whats fucked up tho is i finally asked her to help me, she gets up in the morning early anyway so i told her just come wake me up when u wake up to try and fix this.  whats this bitch do?  she purposely waits till really late to finally come wake me up and says oh you can't sleep in all way.  all she does is try to stop my cycle from fixing itself like it normally does, that doesn't help at all, i need woke up the same time every morning, just to get me started at least, but she won't, i told her don't even bother waking me up if you arn't going to do it in the morning crazy women comes in and wakes me up at like noon or 3pm anyway......so i finally had to start locking my door to keep her out. i swear its that munchowder syndrome shit where she tries to keep her kid sick type shit


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22186755 - 09/04/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

anyways i think i heard some people drink a glass of wine to get to sleep, i might just try that.  the downside is once i start that shit, ill prolly never get to sleep without it


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22186757 - 09/04/15 08:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i already talked to them a little about it, but these fucking doctors these days don't really do shit, they just wait for YOU to tell them whats wrong with you and they try to treat what YOU told them.  ive found that when i don't come out and give them what i think is wrong that they almost never say shit or try to treat anything. 




How is else is this supposed to work? Are they supposed to magically read your mind and automatically know whats wrong with you? Doctor /=/ Wizard


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22186777 - 09/04/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

no they are supposed to listen to symptoms and tell ME whats wrong.  listen carefully, im saying they never do that, they wait for me to GUESS what i THINK is wrong, then they just go with it

go try it the next time you go in and you'll see, if your really vague and just tell them the real simple shit you'll get nowhere because they are fishing for you to tell them exactly whats wrong yourself


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22186780 - 09/04/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.

I took my pills over 8 hours ago and am still not asleep. Drugs aren't the miracle answer all, but they're literally the only thing that even gives me a shot.

One of the things people like to suggest the most is exercise.. I can preform back breaking labor all day and will still not sleep. My insomnia is a total lack of being able to fall asleep. Without drugs, my sleep schedule is stay up for 24-36 hours, sleep 2-4 hours, rinse and repeat. Problem is everyone likes to just say they have insomnia these days because they stay up late. That is not insomnia. If you're sleeping a regular schedule (based on the hours of the norm) you don't have insomnia. You just have a sleep cycle that's not synced to the standard norm for society. So tons of people out there like to minimize it or act as if they understand it when they don't. And quite frankly it pisses me off. "Have you tried x?" yes. "Have you tried y?" yes. "Have you tried z?" yes. "Have you tried every other stupid bullshit answer assigned to a letter of the alphabet?" yes. "well I dunno, works for me". Next time it comes up "have you tried x?"........ :crankey: FUCK YOU!!

Insomnia is a bitch. I can't diagnose it over the internet, but if you have it, you'll know. It leaves no doubt.




Same.

I also do this but my schedule allows 48h stints and sometimes 4-12h sleep.

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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22186783 - 09/04/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Ohhh gotcha. Misunderstood what you meant. I definitely agree with that.


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22186802 - 09/04/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

its like the pain i was talking about on my left side, i can only sleep on my left side, and now my left side hurts almost every night so its becoming a huge bitch.  i told them the pain, told them where, they were like oh ok, then they waited and waited for me to finally tell them i thought it was my heart or a muscle.  they ran the heart test, said it was ok, then NOTHING else happened with that, they just ignored it and moved on to some other shit i was dealing with.  so the only side i can sleep on and im in pain with no answer on how to fix it:cruelworld:


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22186806 - 09/04/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I find a lot of doctors to be of average intelligence. Everyone puts them on this pedestal in regards to how smart they are. Don't get me wrong, there are some brilliant surgeons and specialists out there. But your average, everyday, GP could've graduated last in his class from some shitty non accredited Carribbean med school and you'd never know it.


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22186812 - 09/04/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and the worst part is they act more and more like cops everyday, when i was in the waiting room he was in an argument with another patient over meds.  apparently she had cronic pain for 5 years and he wouldn't percribe her pain meds for it, so she said she was going to get a new doctor and he said she had to be real careful not to burn bridges because clinics spread the word around real quick......dude basically threatened her not to switch doctors because he was being a shitty one:lol:


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22186816 - 09/04/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.




Have you tried GHB? It gives me the highest quality sleep ever, the only problem is you are guaranteed to wake up after 4 hours. The other problem is that if you don't go to bed quickly after taking it, you will be enjoying yourself too much to go to sleep.

Oh yeah, and you need to be very careful about not mixing it with other tranquilizers or you'll end up dead.

And let me add any doctor that carelessly prescribes you Ambien is a total fucking idiot. That shit is crazy. It can be fun, but it's a fucking heavy trip if you take too much and stay awak.


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Edited by cybrbeast (09/04/15 08:24 AM)

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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22186818 - 09/04/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Eh. I wouldn't so quick to judge that situation from a third party view like that. She could've just been doctor shopping. The bigger issue is how they're being paid off by pharmaceutical companies to push shitty antidepressants that have been barely clinically tested for everyone that comes in there with "anxiety" or "insomnia" I'm surprised he didn't try and give you seroquel for your sleeping problems.


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: cybrbeast] * 1
    #22186822 - 09/04/15 08:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.




Have you tried GHB? It gives me the highest quality sleep ever, the only problem is you are guaranteed to wake up after 4 hours. The other problem is that if you don't go to bed quickly after taking it, you will be enjoying yourself too much to go to sleep.

Oh yeah, and you need to be very careful about not mixing it with other tranquilizers or you'll end up dead.



:derpyouverymuch:

How could you possibly type this out and think it was good advice?


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy] * 1
    #22186831 - 09/04/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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cybrbeast said:
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Shroomslip said:
I'm a life long sufferer of insomnia. There are many people here who say drugs aren't the answer and I think these people are idiots and have no idea what real insomnia is like. You ask enough questions, most seem to just have occasional trouble sleeping, which is not anything like have an inability to sleep. I have tried every damn thing under the sun, some things that have never even been suggested here, the only thing that works in my case is heavy tranquilizers and even then, it's a crap shoot.




Have you tried GHB? It gives me the highest quality sleep ever, the only problem is you are guaranteed to wake up after 4 hours. The other problem is that if you don't go to bed quickly after taking it, you will be enjoying yourself too much to go to sleep.

Oh yeah, and you need to be very careful about not mixing it with other tranquilizers or you'll end up dead.



:derpyouverymuch:

How could you possibly type this out and think it was good advice?




You don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.drugs.com/xyrem.html

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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22186839 - 09/04/15 08:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The phrase "have you tried" literally fucking makes my eye twitch. I will give him credit though, it's the first time anyone's asked me that.

No I haven't, and don't need to. It's a sedative, less extreme and better sedatives conducive to sleep exist, one of which I'm on. GHB is going to do nothing more for me then what I'm on now.


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22186843 - 09/04/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I find that smoking some weed an hour before bed helps me sleep but if I smoke immediately before bed it doesn't help because im trapped in my mind and thinking too much.

Also ive been wondering about only being able to sleep on one side too because I can only sleep on my stomach. If I try to sleep on my sides or back I feel too uncomfortable. Also I sleep without a pillow because my adams apple sticks out really far into the pillow and it suffocates me.


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Re: anyone know how to beat insomnia? [Re: Malcolm_Xtasy]
    #22186848 - 09/04/15 08:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I have insomnia as well. While at work I will start to feel "tired" (I think its more of a boredom) Once I get off work I wont be able to sleep. When I do manage to sleep though it doesn't matter how I lay. You might to get checked about that idk I'm not a doctor. Ive taken many meds for it and tried a lot of home remedies. None work for me. I just stay up till I pass out basically. I might get like 2-4 hours of a day.

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