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Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer
#21735314 - 05/29/15 01:38 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Does mycelium use oxygen or co2 to colonization ? I've just found a h2o liquid which has more than 10 times oxygen in it than normal water, so I'm wondering if mycelium need oxygen or co2 to colonization ?
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: freeofcharge]
#21735325 - 05/29/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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For colonization high CO2 (with some gas exchange otherwise it might suffocate) is optimal. In fruiting, Oxygen is needed so the mycelium can breathe more.
What is this liquid called exactly? I doubt it'll actually help the mycelium. Water is water
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: Achillita]
#21735354 - 05/29/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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An inventor in my country has produced a water containing 70 bpm oxygen in it ( normal water has only 6 or 7 ). I'm gonna use it for my liquid culture and will post the results, but in my liquid culture there is no co2 for sure ? any suggestion about the co2 ? will this work ?
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: freeofcharge]
#21735360 - 05/29/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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fungus breathes takes in oxygen and exhales co2
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: freeofcharge]
#21735374 - 05/29/15 01:57 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I am a brewer also and I'v had used it for increasing the yeast cells, the colonization speed had increased up to 4 times, Had a huge succeed.
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: rxb]
#21735378 - 05/29/15 01:58 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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rxb said: fungus breathes takes in oxygen and exhales co2
So I think it might works well
Edited by freeofcharge (05/29/15 01:58 AM)
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: freeofcharge]
#21735387 - 05/29/15 02:01 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Honestly, I have no idea how fungi would respond to the oxygenated water. What's the current use for it, or is it just drinking water?
Maybe do some tests If it actually has oxygen then it might be beneficial. But honestly I have no idea. Wait for someone with better knowledge to chime in.
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freeofcharge said: I am a brewer also and I'v had used it for increasing the yeast cells, the colonization speed had increased up to 4 times, Had a huge succeed.
If it worked with yeast, it might work with mycelium. Experiments must be done!
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: Achillita]
#21735408 - 05/29/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Achillita said:
Honestly, I have no idea how fungi would respond to the oxygenated water. What's the current use for it, or is it just drinking water?
Maybe do some tests If it actually has oxygen then it might be beneficial. But honestly I have no idea. Wait for someone with better knowledge to chime in.
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freeofcharge said: I am a brewer also and I'v had used it for increasing the yeast cells, the colonization speed had increased up to 4 times, Had a huge succeed.
If it worked with yeast, it might work with mycelium. Experiments must be done!
Yes it is a drinking water, lucky for me it has been also sealed and sterilized, cause you can't pc them, when the heat getting up the oxygen would release, if u sealed the bottles they will crack, if you don't you just lose the oxygen. My method is to pc the dextrose or honey separately then with a syringe suck the water out of water bottle and add to them.
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: freeofcharge]
#21735417 - 05/29/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Are you sure the water has been pre sterilized? If so, make sure the syringe is sterilized as well.
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: Achillita]
#21735431 - 05/29/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Are you sure the water has been pre sterilized? If so, make sure the syringe is sterilized as well.
No I'm not sure but I hope that, cause it's for drinking and has been sealed. There shouldn't be any contamination into it and also had worked very well with no contamination in my wine.
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: freeofcharge]
#21735614 - 05/29/15 05:09 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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What is your source for this miraculous substance
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: freeofcharge]
#21735627 - 05/29/15 05:15 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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freeofcharge said:
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Achillita said: Are you sure the water has been pre sterilized? If so, make sure the syringe is sterilized as well.
No I'm not sure but I hope that, cause it's for drinking and has been sealed. There shouldn't be any contamination into it and also had worked very well with no contamination in my wine.
Yea.... no. Drinking water is not sterile especially bottled water.
An infectious disease doctor once that you should never shoot drugs with bottled water, and to actually choose the tap.
You will have to sterilize this water before you use it for anything. It is not sterile.
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: mushpunx]
#21735640 - 05/29/15 05:21 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm just curious, honestly what's the point of oxygenated drink water? Isn't the point of water, you know to have water?
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: Achillita]
#21735791 - 05/29/15 06:55 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Achillita said: I'm just curious, honestly what's the point of oxygenated drink water? Isn't the point of water, you know to have water?
Just a gimmick to sell water I guess.
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: mushpunx]
#21736183 - 05/29/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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H2O with more O in it? Sounds like peroxide haha H2O2...
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21736191 - 05/29/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i THINK its more, o2 trapped between the h2o...
like if you were to chill water down to just before expansion... then pressurized a chamber with o2 and sealed the water....
i just dont think it would last long at atmospheric pressure.
and could it give you the benz?
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21736195 - 05/29/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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that's what I thought at first too greenrabbit, but then he said a bunch more O's so I figured that stuff can't be stable. at all. thinking once it reacts with air (as in you open the bottle) it'll just revert back to whatever it feels like being (h2o/h2o2).
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: rxb]
#21736196 - 05/29/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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for instance... soda isnt h2co3 its h2o+co2
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: rxb]
#21736203 - 05/29/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea I was kind of joking.. O2 being dissolved into the water would be quite pointless though. Mushrooms get their oxygen from the air not from their water source. I suppose you could have a O2 tank and have that feed straight oxygen into your FC to supplement the FAE. But that sounds like a terrible idea haha.
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Re: Oxygen or Co2? need an urgent answer [Re: GreenRabbit]
#21736207 - 05/29/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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all experiments should be run.
some are dumb.
this one isnt dumb... i just doubt it makes a big difference.
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