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help identify these guys
#20912665 - 12/01/14 02:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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hey everyone. i just recently joined this awesome forum. im looking for some guidance here, as ive had trouble finding almost any solid or succesfull data of active finds in my country. however i know they must exist. i also checked the list in this forum, of which species grow in which countries, but it still doesnt shed so much liht. so i was out on a hike and took different pictures of things that looked like possible "finds". however i need to poitn out that im a complete noob when it comes to shroom hunting and identification. so i need some guidance. im soryr i wasnt able to take spore prints, as i didnt know that owuld be nescesary when i went on my walk, and i didnt consider taking samples home of each type that i found. however if its nescecary for further progress, i for sure can do it. so here goes:
im located in the middle east. temperatures right now are averaged 45 degrees farenheit at night. around 60 deg farenheit in the day. average moisture is around between 50-60% mouisture altitude is around 7,000 meteres
were entering the rainy season, we have some days of rain, then some days of some. sometimes a day of rain then several days of sun. in the mornings, theres often times alot of dew, and on the right days, nice fogs in the woods early in the morning.
i live near several woodsy areas that have cows pasturing there year round. ive tried hunting around in those areas, and found many different intresting looking speicimens. however, none of them bruise blue.
some of what i found have been growing directly out of old cow dung. other species have been growing out of the ground, and i even noticed a certain species growing out of old pinecones. so heres the different pictures and descriptions:
HERES SPEICMEN ONE. well call it TYPE 1 COW to make comunicating easier: this one i found in an area that cows regularly graze year round. heres a few pics of them. the way i can describe them verbally, is that the larger caps are a pretty dark brown, and are slimy. ugh. not sure if it was due to the rainy weather or not. A:
B: C: D: (here u can see alot of babies, in the dried up old dung .... how nice)
SPECIMEN TWO: well call it type 2 goats: so this one, i found in an area, with short grass. the ground there used to be used as a goat barn around a year and a half ago. i found this guy growing there. also dark brown. really smelly. there was one next to it which was much larger, and the cap was completely open up and wavy. A:
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SPECIMEN THREE: well call it type 3 WILD woods:
SPECIMEN FOUR: well call these wooded cows these i found in a large wooded area, where cows graze, but i didnt notice that they were coming out of cow dung. there were lots of them hiding all around the foliage. they have a thin white stem. thin caps. they dont bruise blue ;( alot of them have something close to a nipple
SPECIMEN FIVE: well call these pinecone shroom these were really intresting. i found them growing next to specimen four. but they look distinctly different. they are darker brown colored. and the caps are very roundish bell shaped. they were growing next to specimen four, but out of rotten pinecones.
So if anyone can give me some guidance and clarity. i dont want to take any stupid chances. so i was hopoing that maybe some people here could give me some ideas if im in the rigth direction, or if u want me to take more pics of any of the above species. thnks!
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20912827 - 12/01/14 03:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. Protostropharia semiglobata 2. Clitocybe sp 3. Chlorophyllum sp probably, gill shots would be helpful 4. Psathyrella sp probably, gill shots would be helpful 5. Mycena sp
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20912847 - 12/01/14 03:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive picked those first manure-lovers in species #1. I forget their name, but not great to eat. Avoid them.
But the 2nd species looks like Panaeolous cinctulus. You should take a spore print of that one.
Good job (maybe).
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Second species is not cinctulus.
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5. Mycena sp
Possibly M. purpureofusca.
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Anglerfish]
#20927979 - 12/04/14 12:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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wow thnks for all the replies. so none of these are active?
i went out and took some better photos. and also i revealed another species that i didnt notice till now. so here goes:
first of all, heres gill shots of species 4:
and heres another pic of them from the side
HERES SOMETHING NEW I FOUND well call it species 6 theyre pretty big, and foamy. i think the pic describes them well. it looked like they were just growing out of the ground. but there could be old manure buried in these grounds.
and heres something else. well call it species 7 these guys were very small. growing in a patch clustered together. theyre pretty small and light. greyish color.
and last but not least, i didnt think these were active, but just they were so intresting that i had to take some pics and post them at first i thoguht they were rocks. theyre grey, and have a very textured surface. the caps are sealed closed to the very short stem, and are full of juice. i was scared to pop them, but im sure that if i did, that spores would come oozing out.
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20928792 - 12/04/14 04:03 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Species "4" - Mycena Species "6" - Might be Lepiota oreadiformis Species "7" - Psathyrella maybe, do they have brittle stems? Species "8" - Lycoperdon perlatum I think.
Edited by Duggstar (12/04/14 04:07 PM)
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Duggstar]
#20936927 - 12/06/14 09:45 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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so none of these are active???
ill need to try lookn in a different area i guess.
bascially if i understood correctly, my choices in my area are either: 1)Gymnopilus junonius 2(Inocybe tricolor (not so reccomended) 3(Panaeolu
and the gymnopilus are found mostly on rotted wood. and panneolu in fresh maneur
is that my goal?
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20942858 - 12/07/14 03:32 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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heres some new find today. are any of these active:?
9:THESE LOOK VERY SIMILIAR TO 8(to me at least). but they have a ring on the stem.
heres something that im hoping myabe is pans....? i didnt find it in cow maneur. but it was coming up randomly out of the forest floor covered in pine needles, so it was hard to tell what was under it. but it looked like earth. i know they look pretty similiar to speicmen four, but i think the gills look like they have much more meat in them. and are slightly different. maybe just more matre? 10: A: B:
11: twisty tops. cooool A B
12: white bunched family i caught these guys from a distance. as u can see in the first pic from the top, they were all so cutely popping out from the pine needles all together. any ideas what htey could be? are they active? they dont look like anything on the list of what im looking for (pans, tricolors, or gymnopilus, but who knows. maybe theres other actives in my area?) A B C
so did i struck gold yet?????.....
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20943280 - 12/07/14 04:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nope, no actives. Good luck finding active mushrooms by picking every mushroom you come across, that's not how it's normally done, and for good reason. Looks like you've got an Agaricus and maybe a Marasmius species in there.
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20948976 - 12/08/14 07:00 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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#11 Looks like Leucoagaricus #12 Mycena #13 Clitocybe perhaps #14 Marasmius perhaps
None are active
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Happyjoy said: so none of these are active???
ill need to try lookn in a different area i guess.
bascially if i understood correctly, my choices in my area are either: 1)Gymnopilus junonius 2(Inocybe tricolor (not so reccomended) 3(Panaeolu
and the gymnopilus are found mostly on rotted wood. and panneolu in fresh maneur
is that my goal?
I take it you're in Israel then?
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Israel Gymnopilus junonius Inocybe tricolor (Many deadly look-alikes, Inocybes are not recommended for hunting) Panaeolus fimicola
http://www.shroomery.org/8461/Which-psilocybin-mushrooms-grow-wild-in-my-area
Gymnopilus junonius vary greatly in potency according to location. Even if you do find some, there is a good chance they might not be active.
Panaeolus fimicola can be found growing solitary to scattered in soil or dung, fertilized lawns and other grassy places. I believe this is a very weak mushroom though. But I'm not sure what the dosage would need to be.
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Duggstar]
#20951189 - 12/09/14 07:25 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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yup in israel. im pretty sure that i posted that in the begining of the thread.
wow, so it sounds like theres not much likelihood of finding anything worthit here.
just out of curiosity, wouldnt it make sense that we would have the same species growing here, as there are in the UK? were pretty close to eachother.
also that listing that i found with those 3 species in israel that u quoted above, mentioned at the begining, that there could be otehr species not listed.
does anyone have any ideas if i should be looking for other types? maybe liberty caps? or anythign else?
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20951233 - 12/09/14 07:35 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Happyjoy said: wouldnt it make sense that we would have the same species growing here, as there are in the UK? were pretty close to eachother.
Not close enough. The climate in Israel is quite different from that of UK and Northern Europe in general.
Your best bet would be checking equine dung deposits for Panaeolus cinctulus.
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Anglerfish]
#20956693 - 12/10/14 10:02 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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is cow deposits just as good as horse deposits? or you mean specifically horse related deposits?
also are you saying that i shouldnt be looking for Gymnopilus junonius?
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20956727 - 12/10/14 10:11 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Happyjoy said: is cow deposits just as good as horse deposits? or you mean specifically horse related deposits?
I see people keep finding them in association with cow dung, but according to my own experience they are more likely to be found growing in stable shavings. That is where I usually see them in sufficient numbers.
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also are you saying that i shouldnt be looking for Gymnopilus junonius?
You should definitely keep looking for G. junonius as well. I just believe that, for the purpose of gathering psilocybin mushrooms for ingestion, Panaeolus cinctulus is more gratifying with regards to taste. Gymnopilus spp. are usually very bitter.
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Anglerfish]
#20960790 - 12/11/14 06:05 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok thnks. what exactly is horse shavings? at this point of the game, ill be really happy and excited wtih whatever i find. even if its a bit bitter
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#20960821 - 12/11/14 06:31 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Happyjoy said: what exactly is horse shavings?
A good example - courtesy of Knarkkorven:
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Anglerfish]
#21026900 - 12/26/14 03:21 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi everyone. Could this possibly be panoles? Maybe a really big one? http:// http://
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#21027188 - 12/26/14 08:59 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Definitely not a Panaeolus. I'd like to see a proper gill shot, and one of the whole stem including the base intact. Trees about?
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Re: help identify these guys [Re: Happyjoy]
#21027336 - 12/26/14 09:57 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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You should really read up on Panaeolous mushrooms in the "Mushroom Info" then "Hunting Mushrooms" link at the top of the page. LOTS of essential info up there that u need to read.
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