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burningstar06
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Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger?
#20645623 - 10/01/14 06:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Who is the better joker in your opinion and why?
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: burningstar06]
#20645693 - 10/01/14 07:06 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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nicholson nailed the slap stick comedic joker
But heath nailed the viciousness of the joker perfectly, which is my favorite side of the joker.
The joker has multiple personalities, a sociopath, there's just too many different sides to him so there's no absolute perfect way to portray him. So I'd say both Ledger and Nicholson did an equally awesome job of playing him on screen.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#20645711 - 10/01/14 07:12 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like Heath better as an ACTOR but Jack was the better Joker
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: burningstar06]
#20645739 - 10/01/14 07:19 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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batman went from comic book fantasy to being as realistic as possible. i think if jack were the joker in these modern times he would have nailed it just as much as ledger. i mean look at his role in the departed, add alittle more crazy and you'd have the perfect joker.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: plektheplek]
#20645745 - 10/01/14 07:21 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Completely agree with cosmic! The scene with Nicholson when they jokered the museaum was amazing. But Heath ledgers viscous sick angel was good! I'm sure after seeing heaths approach Nicholson could create the perfect joker
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: burningstar06]
#20646712 - 10/01/14 10:35 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Two comic series, two different jokers, I loved them both.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: 28064212] 1
#20646953 - 10/01/14 11:48 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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jack nickolson cause hes still alive
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: trippinballs420]
#20646962 - 10/01/14 11:52 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ledger brought a whole new level to the Joker. It's not because he died he's the better Joker, but the versatility to change the Joker's character into a more insane with the smacks and "you wanna know how I got these scars?" Plus him leaning out of the police car scene and shooting in uniform were very well done cinematography but he did an amazing job acting as a more sycophant smacking and lip licking character. Plus , "wanna see a magic trick?"
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: trunks]
#20647155 - 10/02/14 01:26 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nicholson nicholson. Nicholson Nicholson nicholson.
Fucking Jack Nicholson.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: zZZz]
#20647161 - 10/02/14 01:28 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
zZZz said: batman went from comic book fantasy to being as realistic as possible. i think if jack were the joker in these modern times he would have nailed it just as much as ledger. i mean look at his role in the departed, add alittle more crazy and you'd have the perfect joker.
Look at Jack's role in One flew over the Cuukoo's nest. I realize Kesey hated the film. But drink it in for what it is and look at Jacks role. He's a fuckin masta.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: Clipto4]
#20647362 - 10/02/14 03:20 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Clipto4 said: Completely agree with cosmic! The scene with Nicholson when they jokered the museaum was amazing. But Heath ledgers viscous sick angel was good! I'm sure after seeing heaths approach Nicholson could create the perfect joker
I'd say the joker that was in Under the Redhood (dc animation film) was like heath and jack's joker put together
I posted a clip from that movie. Also in case anyone who hasn't seen it don't click!! spoilers!!.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
#20647385 - 10/02/14 03:40 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Looking back I saw Nicholson as kinda corny and not nearly and crazy and evil and heath portrayed.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: burningstar06]
#20647388 - 10/02/14 03:42 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Obviously Nicholson; Ledger isn't even alive anymore, he can't be that good.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: underfliptown]
#20647399 - 10/02/14 03:46 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Why do you think art gets expensive after the artist dies?
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I think ultimately Ledger's was better because he transformed into THE ACTUAL JOKER. Whenever Jack is in a role, no matter what role, it is always Jack Nicholson as "x" In otherwords, I felt Jack's Joker was merely himself while Ledger BECAME another person.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: 28064212]
#20647409 - 10/02/14 03:56 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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28064212 said: Two comic series, two different jokers, I loved them both.
Really I think this is the answer if they were 2 comics. It then comes down to which comic you liked the adaptation of.
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OP: Damn you, I don't want to choose either. For two decades, as far as I was concerned, the Tim Burton Batman was the definitive motion picture take on the joker, but there's absolutely no doubt Heath Ledger possessed that role (some suggest it was his undoing?) and deserves recognition too. I abstain from voting!
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: burningstar06]
#20647828 - 10/02/14 08:38 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I liked Ledger's performance better, but it could have had a lot to do with the directing and the less "hokey" nature of the film.
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: nicechrisman]
#20647837 - 10/02/14 08:42 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was unimpressed with ledger as the joker, I wasnt convinced of any sort of insanity, not megalomania, none of that, I think that from the moment he died people started touting it as the greatest joker role ever simply because he was dead
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Re: Whos the better joker? Nicholson or ledger? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#20647873 - 10/02/14 08:58 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I honestly don't see how there's any debate here. At all. Ledger was miles ahead as far as believability and raw talent. He was exactly what I'd imagine the Joker to be like.
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