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Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state * 1
    #20361223 - 08/01/14 04:56 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-bolivia-declares-israel-terrorist-state-un-condemns-civilian-deaths/194755/

"This week, Bolivia declared Israel a “terrorist state” while renouncing a visa exemption agreement with Israel in protest over the ongoing Israeli military offense Operation Protective Edge in Gaza which has killed more than 1,300 Palestinians and has left over 7,000 wounded, most of which have been women and children."

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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #20361240 - 08/01/14 05:00 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Good to hear, I cannot believe this has been allowed to go on, it's like people are just standing by and watching another holocaust, and passively accepting that this is how it is.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: Tmethyl]
    #20361249 - 08/01/14 05:02 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
http://www.mintpressnews.com/video-bolivia-declares-israel-terrorist-state-un-condemns-civilian-deaths/194755/

"This week, Bolivia declared Israel a “terrorist state” while renouncing a visa exemption agreement with Israel in protest over the ongoing Israeli military offense Operation Protective Edge in Gaza which has killed more than 1,300 Palestinians and has left over 7,000 wounded, most of which have been women and children."

The noose is tightening on the murderers and thieves.




I'm sure the Israelis are worried about Bolivia.



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Good to hear, I cannot believe this has been allowed to go on, it's like people are just standing by and watching another holocaust, and passively accepting that this is how it is.




It's not that many feel it's "how it is" so much as Hamas brought it upon themselves.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #20361262 - 08/01/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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It's not that many feel it's "how it is" so much as Hamas brought it upon themselves.



Is that what you've been told, or is that what you know?


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #20361267 - 08/01/14 05:05 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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It's not that many feel it's "how it is" so much as Hamas brought it upon themselves.




Why did Hamas start launching missiles?


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut] * 3
    #20361281 - 08/01/14 05:08 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

If the palis didn't fight back, people like zap would say they must not really want the land or they wouldn't give it up so easily, therefore, it belongs to isreal. Since they did fight back and keep on fighting, he say that justifies the mass murder and land theft they do against the arabs. "hamas fires rockets? then all civilians must die"


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: Stonehenge]
    #20361304 - 08/01/14 05:12 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

What Luvedem also fails to realise is that Hamas began launching missiles after a brutal crackdown on Hamas members in the West Bank as part of Operation Brothers Keeper. This was to try and find the people who killed the Israeli teenagers. Although this was a despicable crime Hamas denied that they had carried this out and Israel have provided no evidence to the contrary.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: Tmethyl]
    #20361315 - 08/01/14 05:15 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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luvdemshrooms said:
It's not that many feel it's "how it is" so much as Hamas brought it upon themselves.



Is that what you've been told, or is that what you know?




I read a lot.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut]
    #20361320 - 08/01/14 05:17 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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It's not that many feel it's "how it is" so much as Hamas brought it upon themselves.




Why did Hamas start launching missiles?




I know the story and the history. As I've told you before I don't care.

You don't fire rockets at civilians.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut]
    #20361326 - 08/01/14 05:18 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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What Luvedem also fails to realise is that Hamas began launching missiles after a brutal crackdown on Hamas members in the West Bank as part of Operation Brothers Keeper. This was to try and find the people who killed the Israeli teenagers. Although this was a despicable crime Hamas denied that they had carried this out and Israel have provided no evidence to the contrary.




You really should consider not telling people what they think. Some of us are quite capable of deciding for ourselves. Plus, you're quite often wrong. It's an ignorant and childish thing to do.

You don't fire rockets at civilians.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #20361328 - 08/01/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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You don't fire rockets at civilians.




So you obviously condemn the Israelis for killing 1000+ civilians then?


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut]
    #20361337 - 08/01/14 05:20 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Who says?


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut]
    #20361340 - 08/01/14 05:21 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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You don't fire rockets at civilians.




So you obviously condemn the Israelis for killing 1000+ civilians then?




Nope. Once Hamas started firing and Israel warned the civilians, they were good to go. Unless Israel has switched to unguided weaponry?

Have they?


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 1
    #20361384 - 08/01/14 05:35 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

So when you say "You don't fire rockets at civilians" you dont actually mean that at all? Can you explain the caveats that make it a-ok to fire rockets at civilians? What are the pre-requisites that make it ok to go ahead and kill innocents by the score using guided rockets?


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut]
    #20361403 - 08/01/14 05:40 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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So when you say "You don't fire rockets at civilians" you dont actually mean that at all? Can you explain the caveats that make it a-ok to fire rockets at civilians? What are the pre-requisites that make it ok to go ahead and kill innocents by the score using guided rockets?




Yeah, right?

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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut]
    #20361406 - 08/01/14 05:41 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Yup. I fully mean it. It was just today's laziness that caused my failure to include the word "unguided".


I've explained my position several times in these threads, including with you. Asking the same question multiple times will not garner you a different answer and frankly makes you appear a bit slow.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #20361471 - 08/01/14 05:56 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

Well I apologise for being slow but would you be so kind as to explain it for me one more time? I just need to understand why killing people with a guided rocket is ok whereas if you use an unguided rocket it is a terrible crime. To be honest, the logic seems questionable to me.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut]
    #20361491 - 08/01/14 06:00 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Well I apologise for being slow but would you be so kind as to explain it for me one more time?




Feel free to read them again.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #20361512 - 08/01/14 06:06 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

I had a quick look but I cant see the explanation in response to any of my posts.

I guess you dont really have a coherent position on this then.


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Re: Bolivia declares isreal a terrorist state [Re: GazzBut] * 1
    #20361521 - 08/01/14 06:07 PM (9 years, 7 months ago)

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Well I apologise for being slow but would you be so kind as to explain it for me one more time? I just need to understand why killing people with a guided rocket is ok whereas if you use an unguided rocket it is a terrible crime. To be honest, the logic seems questionable to me.





The difference is that Israel isn't intentionally targeting Civilians and Hamas is.


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