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Patlal
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Should abortion contracts be legal?
#19996445 - 05/16/14 08:13 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Even the best contraceptive is only 99.9 effective, so that means there's an unplanned pregnancy 1/1000 time, which adds up to the hundreds of thousand in the general population. Needless to say, it changes the lives of people and that bullshit that only the hormone filled woman with a cloudy mind can make the final decision is ludicrous.
So, coul;d this be solved by a legal contract?
Something like this:
This is a legal contract between:
Patlal (birth date, drivers license number, social security number)
and
Super hot chick with the perfect personality that only men such as Patlal can get (birth date, drivers license, social security number)
Should an unplanned pregnancy between this couple occur without the consent of both parties will result in an immediate abortion. Failure to comply will result in a lawsuit.
Contraceptive methods used:
- the pill - condom
This is a binding contract
Signature, date, witness.
What do you guys think of that? Should this be legal?
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Edited by Patlal (05/16/14 08:13 AM)
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trekie
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19996478 - 05/16/14 08:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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No it shouldn't be legal one shouldn't force someone else views on one's own body.
Now if the guy didn't want to be there and they tired not to get pregnant then the dude should be able to spilt without the financial burden. Just the burdern of unrelenting guilty. I'm very big on personal rights.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal] 2
#19996493 - 05/16/14 08:27 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Absolutely not. You can't force a woman to go through with a surgical procedure on her body if she doesn't want it. I do think that that man should have the right to waive parenthood, however, if he doesn't want the child and not have to pay child support.
I think it's crazy that if the man wants an abortion and wants nothing to do with the child he still has to pay child support. You can't force a woman to do something with her body but you can absolve the man of responsibility.
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Patlal
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: trekie]
#19996499 - 05/16/14 08:29 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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trekie said: No it shouldn't be legal one shouldn't force someone else views on one's own body.
Now if the guy didn't want to be there and they tired not to get pregnant then the dude should be able to spilt without the financial burden. Just the burdern of unrelenting guilty. I'm very big on personal rights.
Yes, but what about MY personal right to not have an unwanted child when all the conceptive have been properly used???????? Ever thought of that. A kid a responsibility that affects your ENTIRE life. Plus, the contract is not mandatory, kinda like pre-nups. You have the option not to sign it.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal]
#19996511 - 05/16/14 08:32 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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[mod edit: nope nope nope]
Edited by tymoteusz3 (05/16/14 09:03 AM)
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19996512 - 05/16/14 08:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You don't have such a right. If anything though it should be possible to sign a contract where the man waives parental rights and the woman waives the right to go after him for child support. The idea of the woman being contractually bound to have surgery is ludicrous.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal]
#19996516 - 05/16/14 08:34 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have an unwanted child and it Fucking sucks. Like I said the option to bale should be there if said contract is signed or if even the women lies to you about birth control.
All your rights end when anough person body begins.
But I don't see this being a problem if you are Fucking polar bears.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: psi] 1
#19996526 - 05/16/14 08:36 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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psi said: You don't have such a right. If anything though it should be possible to sign a contract where the man waives parental rights and the woman waives the right to go after him for child support. The idea of the woman being contractually bound to have surgery is ludicrous.
I realllllly like this idea. You deserve a nobel peace prize immediately
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal]
#19996596 - 05/16/14 08:52 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you are that worried about getting a girl pregnant don't fuck her in the first place. Its a risk, just like getting HIV that you understand before you have sex with someone. Woman have a lot more power in the situation because it is their body. If you only sleep with females that have had abortions I think you are a lot safer.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal]
#19996598 - 05/16/14 08:53 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, because your unwanted handicapped child will be how god punishes you for making these threads.
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Patlal
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19996602 - 05/16/14 08:55 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ellis Dee said: No, because your unwanted handicapped child will be how god punishes you for making these threads.
;)
The polls are tied. I'm not the only one that thinks like this. Plus what's the point of making a thread if its not a little shocking? It would only die within the hour.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal]
#19996612 - 05/16/14 08:56 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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Ellis Dee said: No, because your unwanted handicapped child will be how god punishes you for making these threads.
;)
The polls are tied. I'm not the only one that thinks like this. Plus what's the point of making a thread if its not a little shocking? It would only die within the hour.
I just cast a tiebreaker for ya.
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Patlal
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Ellis Dee]
#19996618 - 05/16/14 08:58 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm surprised that this: "Super hot chick with the perfect personality that only men such as Patlal can get" hasn't been quoted yet. I have the perfect comeback and nobody took the bait lol.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19996709 - 05/16/14 09:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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trekie said: No it shouldn't be legal one shouldn't force someone else views on one's own body.
Now if the guy didn't want to be there and they tired not to get pregnant then the dude should be able to spilt without the financial burden. Just the burdern of unrelenting guilty. I'm very big on personal rights.
Yes, but what about MY personal right to not have an unwanted child when all the conceptive have been properly used???????? Ever thought of that. A kid a responsibility that affects your ENTIRE life. Plus, the contract is not mandatory, kinda like pre-nups. You have the option not to sign it.
If you're gonna be a low life like that (not saying you are just any man) then you should NOT BE HAVING SEX.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: VivaLaMushie] 3
#19996719 - 05/16/14 09:24 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you're not ready to have sex...
Do it anyway.
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Patlal
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: VivaLaMushie]
#19996734 - 05/16/14 09:28 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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VivaLaMushie said:
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Patlal said:
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trekie said: No it shouldn't be legal one shouldn't force someone else views on one's own body.
Now if the guy didn't want to be there and they tired not to get pregnant then the dude should be able to spilt without the financial burden. Just the burdern of unrelenting guilty. I'm very big on personal rights.
Yes, but what about MY personal right to not have an unwanted child when all the conceptive have been properly used???????? Ever thought of that. A kid a responsibility that affects your ENTIRE life. Plus, the contract is not mandatory, kinda like pre-nups. You have the option not to sign it.
If you're gonna be a low life like that (not saying you are just any man) then you should NOT BE HAVING SEX.
Alright, maybe forcing a surgical abortion is too much.
What about chemical abortion? I'm sure there's a pill that produces immediate miscarriage?
All I'm trying to do is prevent women from being pushed down stairs and I get shit on
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19996751 - 05/16/14 09:32 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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No. Signing a contract for sex is some dumb shit unless we're talking porn here.
Just..........no.
If you stick your willy in a place that pops out babies, you just may end up with one of them things.
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Patlal
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Uzziel]
#19996755 - 05/16/14 09:34 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Uzziel said: No. Signing a contract for sex is some dumb shit unless we're talking porn here.
Just..........no.
If you stick your willy in a place that pops out babies, you just may end up with one of them things.
Yes but the willy is wrapped with rubber and the girl is chemically sterilizing herself.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19996767 - 05/16/14 09:39 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know both women and men who have waived their parental rights. They do not have to pay any child support, nor do they get visitation with their kids. They do not have to buy Christmas presents for the unwanted child, nor do they have to remember that child's birthday.
The idea of having someone sign a contract saying they would undergo a surgical / medical procedure in the event of a pregnancy is ridiculous. You can't say for sure what decision you would make until you are actually in that situation, IMO, and regardless of what decision a woman makes, SHE will deal with the brunt end of all consequences related to that choice. I've known women who have had abortions and felt it was the right thing to do. I also have known women who chose abortion and came to regret that decision. One woman described the experience as "a black mark on her soul."
Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Should there be a contract between a couple that states that if they are together for x amount of time and one or both partners do not want a child, should the man have to undergo a vasectomy to prevent pregnancy? It is a minimally invasive outpatient procedure and is far more effective than OCs simply because you won't have an unwanted pregnancy simply because you forgot to take your pill, or ran out and can't afford to buy more, or because you were on antibiotics for pneumonia which caused the birth control to be ineffective. AND a vasectomy is reversible, so if you and your partner decided you wanted to try to have a child, you could make that choice when the time was right.
I'm betting a lot of you will say no, because it would be unfair for a woman to ask a man to sign a contract stating he will undergo a surgical procedure that has the potential to permanently alter the way his body works.
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Re: Should abortion contracts be legal? [Re: Patlal] 1
#19996790 - 05/16/14 09:44 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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Uzziel said: No. Signing a contract for sex is some dumb shit unless we're talking porn here.
Just..........no.
If you stick your willy in a place that pops out babies, you just may end up with one of them things.
Yes but the willy is wrapped with rubber and the girl is chemically sterilizing herself.
And everyone knows that there is still risk despite all efforts to work around it.
It's as simple as talking to the girl beforehand and asking what she is going to do. Someone logical and not set on having a baby yet so they don't mess up their future if they are young will most likely get an abortion.
A pro-lifer will disrupt your future and hers by having a kid (if you're too young to have a kid and can't support it)
Maybe it's a good idea to not stick your dick in crazy, EH?
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