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pablokabute
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biodiesel is the shit.
#19529083 - 02/06/14 06:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i live in a tropical country with lotsa coconuts(i think were the number one exporter, why the hell are we still importing shitty petrol products)
i was thinking of having a biodiesel company, starting out with one pump...
i dunno how feasible would that be and how much money im gonna be needing...
its pretty darn easy to process personal batches but on a mass scale, damn thats a lot of work...
i just wanna be filthy rich and travel the world... drive the shit out of those roads.. fuel my boat or yacht with biodiesel and just go wild...
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if biodiesel made so much money it would already be in wide use, it's only cost effective when the resources are free and processing is minimal such as with used veggie oils
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Re: biodiesel is the shit. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19529125 - 02/06/14 06:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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From what I know most of the people who make it are restaurant owners, and only produce limited batches.
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Re: biodiesel is the shit. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19529131 - 02/06/14 06:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You need a crop that has a lot of mass, high energy content and grows quickly. In a tropical country, that would be sugar cane. In fact, sugar cane is probably the only crop that makes sense to grow specifically for biofuels.
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Re: biodiesel is the shit. [Re: koods]
#19529143 - 02/06/14 06:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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sugarcane can make alcohol but it's still costly as fuck which is why ethanol is only an additive in gasoline, 99% denatured alcohol costs around $10/gal, so yeah, that 10% blend you buy at the pumps was made more expensive by adding a 'biofuel' to the mix
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Re: biodiesel is the shit. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19529247 - 02/06/14 07:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: if biodiesel made so much money it would already be in wide use, it's only cost effective when the resources are free and processing is minimal such as with used veggie oils
thats exactly how corrupted this world has become.
i dunno if youre kidding but seriously? how 'more' expensive can biodiesel be instead of developing the infrastructure and mining those petro shit.
meanwhile, in germany, produced 2,800 tonnes of biodiesel last 2011
http://www.ebb-eu.org/stats.php
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Re: biodiesel is the shit. [Re: koods]
#19529251 - 02/06/14 07:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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koods said: You need a crop that has a lot of mass, high energy content and grows quickly. In a tropical country, that would be sugar cane. In fact, sugar cane is probably the only crop that makes sense to grow specifically for biofuels.
thats for bioethanol, im talking about biodiesel from copra (coconut oils)
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seriously guys, i think its really feasible,
i just need to hook me up some interested farmers and farms...
...process their copra production and boom!!
i dont think it would be that expensive to make or manufacture especially when you get the coconut oil firsthand from farms - wholesale price of course.
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Prisoner#1 said: if biodiesel made so much money it would already be in wide use, it's only cost effective when the resources are free and processing is minimal such as with used veggie oils
thats exactly how corrupted this world has become.
i dunno if youre kidding but seriously? how 'more' expensive can biodiesel be instead of developing the infrastructure and mining those petro shit.
meanwhile, in germany, produced 2,800 tonnes of biodiesel last 2011
http://www.ebb-eu.org/stats.php
I'm not kidding, the cultivation of crops including switch grass which is one of the leaders in biofuel production in addition to the production is cost prohibitive in relation to drilling for oil and refining it. for one, the infrastructure for oil is already in place, the facilities to produce ethanol are in place as well but must people like to consume those products directly, of course one of the big scared in biofules production is food prices, if we grow corn for fuel then what happens to the price of corn in the supermarket, even though these crops are both corn, they arent the same, just as feed corn isnt the same as what we eat... it's the land and equipment, if farmers see more profit in raising sweet corn for humans then they'd continue to do so but if biofules are more profitable then that's where the production market will shift until sweet corn's price increases because the demand is high and supply is low
biodiesel as a secondary product such as used cooking oil is profitable because someone has already paid the premium price for the oil, the used oil would have been used in cosmetics as a means for recouping some of those expenses from the restaurants, if the biofuels market picks it up then yes, the prices will increase but it'll still be profitable, production from raw materials OTOH wouldnt be in relation to the fossil fuels, just look at the cost of a gallon of corn oil
corn oil is around $6/gal, coconut oil is around $20/gal, other vegetable oils can range from $6/gal to nearly $30/gal and while people love to bash the companies for making a profit, without that profit there's no incentive to produce the products and those profits arent as great as people would like to believe, the oil industry has one of the lowest profit margins, the billions they see each year come from the volume in sales and even a large chunk of that goes back into research for things like alternative energy
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pablokabute said: seriously guys, i think its really feasible,
i just need to hook me up some interested farmers and farms...
...process their copra production and boom!!
i dont think it would be that expensive to make or manufacture especially when you get the coconut oil firsthand from farms - wholesale price of course.
coconut oil costs $20/gal, the producers get their raw materials directly from the farmers, how can you possibly make it cheaper than $4/gallon especially since you'd need a means of processing the coconuts to produce the oil
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Re: biodiesel is the shit. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#19529888 - 02/06/14 10:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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pablokabute said: seriously guys, i think its really feasible,
i just need to hook me up some interested farmers and farms...
...process their copra production and boom!!
i dont think it would be that expensive to make or manufacture especially when you get the coconut oil firsthand from farms - wholesale price of course.
coconut oil costs $20/gal, the producers get their raw materials directly from the farmers, how can you possibly make it cheaper than $4/gallon especially since you'd need a means of processing the coconuts to produce the oil
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Prisoner#1 said:
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pablokabute said: seriously guys, i think its really feasible,
i just need to hook me up some interested farmers and farms...
...process their copra production and boom!!
i dont think it would be that expensive to make or manufacture especially when you get the coconut oil firsthand from farms - wholesale price of course.
coconut oil costs $20/gal, the producers get their raw materials directly from the farmers, how can you possibly make it cheaper than $4/gallon especially since you'd need a means of processing the coconuts to produce the oil
actually, thank you for your replies and interests sir,
you see,, youre calculating all the cost from an american perspective in an american economy..
where i live, as was said, is just so full of coconut... lotta supplies so it aint that costly.. im pretty confident to say that it costs less than $4 a gallon, virgin oil, wholesale price.. ever heard of 'copra'?
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