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    #19271415 - 12/13/13 04:00 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone been or currently working as a bartender?

I'm sitting in on a class next Tuesday and I'm 90% sure I'm going to enroll and become a bartender. I'm not sure even what city I'm going to be in in a few months, and part of me thinks I should during my 1 year spiritual quest thing I'm doing spend a couple months in several places around the country with a variety of people.

There are bars everywhere so this seems like a no-brainer, plus it seems like good money.

The school I'm looking at costs $900 after $100 off for donating a needed item to the ASPCA, but they have AMAZING job placement assistance and 70 affiliated schools all over the country, so if you're a graduate in good standing you can use the job placement services of any of the other schools in any town that has one.


I'm thinking this is a smart move :strokebeard:


I bet it'd be fun as fuck too since I crave people so much.


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox] * 1
    #19271417 - 12/13/13 04:01 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Bartending [Re: Sheekle]
    #19271424 - 12/13/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

HONK HONK :crankey:


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19271428 - 12/13/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Are you guys brothas? :rasta:


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19271435 - 12/13/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I did it for a few years when I was about your age. Be prepared to meet lots of hot chicks.

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Re: Bartending [Re: Khii Khwaay] * 2
    #19271447 - 12/13/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Synthe said:
Are you guys brothas? :rasta:




We're all brothers and sisters here :sun:

Quote:

Khii Khwaay said:
I did it for a few years when I was about your age. Be prepared to meet lots of hot chicks.




Haha I'm gay but maybe with enough drinks in me... :strokebeard: :naughty: lol. I take it it was a pretty dec gig then?

How much is realistic to expect hourly, average wise (over a few weeks, since I realize day shifts probs pay less than night shifts).


What kind of venue did you work in?


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19271503 - 12/13/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

We have a school like that here, they also teach card games if you wanna work at the casino.

Ive thought about becoming a bartender just for the fact I love making random cocktails, trying to figure out what tastes good and what doesn't. My boyfriend actually brought it up and said he thought id enjoy it. I would, but I honestly would want to work somewhere classy, not a damn nightclub with loud ass music or a fucking Applebees.


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Re: Bartending [Re: VivaLaMushie]
    #19271543 - 12/13/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think it's particularly easy to just "become a bartender".  From what I've heard those "schools" are a total joke.

To become a bartender you usually need to start as a barback and work your way up.  It often takes a few years before you can get up to bartending positions, they are pretty coveted because of the possibility for massive tips.

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Re: Bartending [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19271559 - 12/13/13 04:36 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

I'm aware. Those schools just teach you the basics for what you'd need to know to pass the bar exam. There's plenty of shitty ass bartender's.

You ever watched that show Bar Rescue on Spike? I love that show, haha.


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Re: Bartending [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #19271562 - 12/13/13 04:37 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A ducks walks into a bar and asks, “Got any grapes?”

The bartender, confused, tells the ducks that no, his bar doesn’t serve grapes. The duck thanks him and leaves.duck

The next day, the duck returns and says, “Got any grapes?”

Again, the bartender tells him that, no, the bar does not serve grapes, has never served grapes, and, furthermore, will never serve grapes. The duck, a little ruffled, thanks him and leaves.

The next day, the duck returns, but before he can say anything, the bartender begins to yell: ”Listen, duck! This is a bar! We do not serve grapes! If you ever ask for grapes again, I will nail your stupid duck beak to the bar!”

The duck is silent for a moment, and then asks, ”Got any nails?”

Confused, the bartender says no.

”Good!” says the duck. ”Got any grapes?”


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Re: Bartending [Re: Zombi3]
    #19271627 - 12/13/13 04:56 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Zombi3 said:
A ducks walks into a bar and asks, “Got any grapes?”

The bartender, confused, tells the ducks that no, his bar doesn’t serve grapes. The duck thanks him and leaves.duck

The next day, the duck returns and says, “Got any grapes?”

Again, the bartender tells him that, no, the bar does not serve grapes, has never served grapes, and, furthermore, will never serve grapes. The duck, a little ruffled, thanks him and leaves.

The next day, the duck returns, but before he can say anything, the bartender begins to yell: ”Listen, duck! This is a bar! We do not serve grapes! If you ever ask for grapes again, I will nail your stupid duck beak to the bar!”

The duck is silent for a moment, and then asks, ”Got any nails?”

Confused, the bartender says no.

”Good!” says the duck. ”Got any grapes?”



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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19271845 - 12/13/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

st1llnox said:

Haha I'm gay but maybe with enough drinks in me... :strokebeard: :naughty: lol. I take it it was a pretty dec gig then?

How much is realistic to expect hourly, average wise (over a few weeks, since I realize day shifts probs pay less than night shifts).


What kind of venue did you work in?




Well, there were enough hot dudes working there, too. Gay guys, straight guys, hot chicks... almost everybody was DTF, too.

The joint I  worked in was pretty cool. There was a fine dining restaurant on the first floor, a bar grub restaurant on the second, pool tables on the second, fourth and half of the third floors, and a stand up comedy venue on the other half of the third floor.

The best job was service bartender for the laugh club. All I would do was make drinks for the waitresses, and then kick back and listen to the stand-up show. It was a mad rush to make drinks before the show started, and then it cooled down for the rest of the show.

I think the hourly rate was about CAD 5.85, which at the time was about two or three dollars less than minimum wage. The tip outs were usually pretty good, though. The whole building pooled tips, and then at the end of the evening we all sat down and divided it up by hours worked that day. (We also got shitfaced at the same time, lol). Most nights I walked out of there with about $100 in tips. More than a few times we were making more than $20/hour in tips, which was pretty good at the time.

I went to bartending school too, but that's not how I landed the gig. I was headhunted from a local Starbucks, lol. The bartending school helped me get the Starbucks job, though. The school I went to was quite a bit less expensive than the one you're looking at, though. Mind you, that was some time ago.

It was a pretty fun job, and the pay was good for me at the time, but I could tell that after a few years there I would have been burnt right out. Work, beer and blow, sleep, do it again. Fun Times :thumbup:

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Re: Bartending [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19271886 - 12/13/13 06:05 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Seeing as how you've already got some customer service experience, you should just hit up some bars with resumes. There is usually a pretty high staff turnover in most bars, and they're usually looking for good staff almost constantly. Especially around Chrismas (party) season.

Most of the drinks you make as a bartender are simple, like rum and coke, gin and tonic, and draught beer pints. I don't think I used much of the stuff I learned in bartending school on the job. Being able to hustle without complaint is probably the most important part of the job. It helps if you're at least semi-attractive, too.

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Re: Bartending [Re: Khii Khwaay]
    #19271996 - 12/13/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Khii Khwaay said:
Seeing as how you've already got some customer service experience, you should just hit up some bars with resumes. There is usually a pretty high staff turnover in most bars, and they're usually looking for good staff almost constantly. Especially around Chrismas (party) season.

Most of the drinks you make as a bartender are simple, like rum and coke, gin and tonic, and draught beer pints. I don't think I used much of the stuff I learned in bartending school on the job. Being able to hustle without complaint is probably the most important part of the job. It helps if you're at least semi-attractive, too.





THIS!!

don't waste your money on bar tending school, it's a total scam.


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Re: Bartending [Re: broken]
    #19272091 - 12/13/13 07:12 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

A class to be a bartender? Is that a law or rule in your state in order to become one? I've bartendered in the past.

Its great money but say good bye to your weekend and some of your social time (besides at work). You'll work Halloween, New Years and St. Patricks day FOR SURE. Focus on recipes. Most recipes are just tweaked original/staple recipes. The rest will follow.

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Re: Bartending [Re: BlindEye]
    #19272116 - 12/13/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks so much for the useful feedback and information, guys!

While I realize that it's not totally necessary to do the school, since I've been out of the party/bar scene for a while it will be useful to me anyway and the connections will be invaluable. I talked to the owner of the school today about their 90%+ job placement rate and she explained that some people simply can't be bothered to get off the couch and those are the only ones that aren't placed. She added that I seem very articulate and that this will make getting a bartending position that much easier.

The school is set up like an actual bar and 3/4ths of the class time is hands-on practice and drills/simulation, so I think what they sell the school on (and sell you on to employers that refer to them) is that you end up having essentially bona fide bartending experience by the time you're looking for a job.


I am very optimistic for my near future for the first time in a while :sun:. I think this will be a great catalyst to becoming financially independent and GTFOing from my parents house. Especially since I'm planning on moving potentially to a different city soon... I can't think of a better nomadic skill to have, and as someone pointed out: maybe my sentence I served at McDonalds will pay off with my recent customer service experience bolstering my employability! :awesomenod:

I appreciate all of you :hug:


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19272134 - 12/13/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

well if the 90% connections/placement is really THAT good, that money might be worth it, but there are lots of bartending schools that go for much less and also promise networking/placement. i think it's probably more dependent on you taking the info in (which will be the same at all schools), getting the practice in (same at all schools), and getting your ass to bars/hounding them/really risking yourself with your resume.


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19272136 - 12/13/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

seriously dude, before you invest the money, make a resume, look in the help wanted, and 'knock on doors' i give you 75% chance of finding a job in 14 days if you spend 7 days applying for jobs, talking to mangers, owners, who ever can give you the job.

hand shakes and conversation go a long way in this business.


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Re: Bartending [Re: broken]
    #19272145 - 12/13/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

Showme and Broken, I'll try that. With a little pilgrimage I'm about to go on, I won't be able to do this class until probs early January anyway so I'm going to give it a shot.

Thank you for your help and encouragement!


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Re: Bartending [Re: broken]
    #19272146 - 12/13/13 07:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago)

yaaaa I like this :crazy2:


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