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OfflineLearyfanS
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"Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation)
    #1902980 - 09/10/03 08:54 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone should see this little flash movie by "Take Back The Media". It goes through the timeline up until the leaves Booker Elementary. They play Mozart while they make their case. I give it 5 "Bush Knew" pins. VERY good.

"What you are about to see may shock you....."


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Learyfan]
    #1903023 - 09/10/03 09:05 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

If Bush knew this was going to happen in advance why the hell did he act so suspiciously? (assuming that this information is correct) Had he known in advance he would surely have prepared how he was going to act when it happened.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: z@z.com]
    #1903045 - 09/10/03 09:10 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, and when planes are falling from the sky and more are
missing off course you just sit there and keep reading little
red riding hood without whisking the president to safety?

again, MAJOR breakdown in national security if this is how
things are handled.

what a farce...

(edit: typo/formatting)


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: afoaf]
    #1903051 - 09/10/03 09:11 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

I think mistakes were made no question, but I am willing to bet that the mistakes were mostly due to a breakdown in communication and poor intelligence on the crisis.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: z@z.com]
    #1903065 - 09/10/03 09:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

if that is the case, the best worst case scenario, then
what has been done to reprimand the parties responsible
for the breakdown or improve the system?

nothing.

what a farce...


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: z@z.com]
    #1903503 - 09/10/03 10:46 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

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z@z.com said:
If Bush knew this was going to happen in advance why the hell did he act so suspiciously? (assuming that this information is correct) Had he known in advance he would surely have prepared how he was going to act when it happened.




His alibi was reading to school children. How perfect. Whichever PR exec dreamed up that little detail deserves a promotion. His suspicious behavior was just bad acting and more proof that the federal government has, and always will, look at the public as stupid and gullible. And they're right. Sure, you'll have the odd egghead putting together timelines that blow every single official version of the events of 9/11 out of the water, but in a country built on majority rules, why does it matter? Those precious masses in the hundreds of millions that clog that big gap between NY and LA believes what they are fed by CNN and FOX News. No questions asked.

Detach yourself from your American citizenship for a week and do some research on the events of 9/11 with an open, impartial, and logical mind. No matter what the truth of that day is, the very least you will come away with is the realization that there are VERY important unanswered questions that the government has refused to address publicly. Dare to question the motives behind this behavior and you will be on the road to the truth. Like I said; whatever that may be.

It is important to realize that in our public reality we see a very sterile and watered down version of what is Global Politics. It's always been a disgustingly dirty business but, like so many other things in today's society, it has sunken lower than previously believed possible. I hate so say this but sometimes the truth hurts: 3000 lives and a couple of buildings is FUCKING PEANUTS in the interest of national security. Bush needed his war and his reasons for it and by God, he got them. He can't just ignore peak oil now, right??? Imagine if when you woke up tomorrow morning that there was not a single drop of oil or gas left on the planet. Seriously, sit down and really think of the ramifications of that. The economic ones alone would be crippling. There would only be one word to describe it: CHAOS. This is the nightmare that the Bush Administration is trying to avoid in it's vision of the 21st century and this is what I was refering to when I mentioned national security. A country in chaos is not a secure one.

When the oil crunch hits sometime in the next 50 years, ALL of the world's power shifts to those with control of the GAS. Sure, parts of the world will move onto future fuels but who gives a shit. We've kept the right percentage of mankind back in the technological dark long enough to keep them addicted to gas well into this century. I don't know what they'll be charging but lets just say they won't be giving it away.

I, for one, do not agree with how this government is going about it's task. I believe there are alternatives to this violent path but, unfortunately, I think they are in too deep and there's no looking back. The only thing that can heal this fucked up planet is TRUTH. As a civilized race we have never had a sizeable public capable of handling the truth, it's too ugly. It would get in the way of our daily lives and disrupt the cash flow. Can't have that. Keep 'em calm and keep 'em working; that's a rule you don't fuck with no matter what. A major turning point in civilization will be when the public can handle the truth. We now have, only recently, the technology to offer a source of information that is untouched by government corruption and corporate greed but not too many are taking advantage of it. It's growing though, slowly but surely. I'm optomistic. In the mean time, I live for the day that George W. Bush's political career goes down in flames. That will be a historically great day for peace, humanity, and truth.



And don't forget the Patriot Act.

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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Scratcher]
    #1904851 - 09/11/03 10:14 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

well written, scratcher.

it's good to see you around.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: afoaf]
    #1904854 - 09/11/03 10:15 AM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Agreed! Nice.





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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Scratcher]
    #1905259 - 09/11/03 12:29 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Bravo... :thumbup:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1905387 - 09/11/03 12:50 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Give me a damn break. This conspiracy theory of bullshit is sickening.

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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1905423 - 09/11/03 12:55 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

ah, i see the wool over your eyes has thickened shatka.....you really get upset dont cha?
An excellent thread everyone! :laugh:


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: shakta]
    #1905424 - 09/11/03 12:56 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Give them a break. It's all that keeps some of them going each day.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1905514 - 09/11/03 01:12 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

this is topic is based on soooooo much coulda, shouda, woulda BS it's sickening, i'm starting to pity these fools.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905523 - 09/11/03 01:14 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

If anything, the facts show that Bush is not the man that should be in charge in a crisis situation.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Autonomous]
    #1905559 - 09/11/03 01:21 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

That would imply that there were facts in the explanations of these wack jobs.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905587 - 09/11/03 01:25 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

The timeline, Bush's inattention to the situation and his lethargic response are what I am referring to. The man is unfit for the job (this is not an endorsement of his former rival for the position - he is an idiot as well).


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905593 - 09/11/03 01:26 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Here's a fact for you...Bush Knew.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Autonomous]
    #1905613 - 09/11/03 01:29 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

The timeline, Bush's inattention to the situation and his lethargic response are what I am referring to




again nothing but circumstantial...

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The man is unfit for the job (this is not an endorsement of his former rival for the position - he is an idiot as well).




this is exactly what i'm talking aboot. You guys are so blinded by hate (one only needs to look at Learyfan for an example) that you're looking past anything that could even be construde as circumstantial and try to present it as fact. It is apparant that many here don't know what "Evidence" is. You guys would be tore up in court if you were lawyers.


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Rono]
    #1905618 - 09/11/03 01:30 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

follow the leader...


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Re: "Bush Knew........An American Requiem" (Flash animation) [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1905638 - 09/11/03 01:33 PM (20 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Innvertigo said:
follow the leader...




Seems to be the theme of the American public...only insert "Blindly" in front...


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