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rye grain cakes ? * 1
    #19020014 - 10/23/13 03:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

after messing up a bulk grow iv been left with alot of rye grain and no desire to do bulk anytime soon.
I was wondering if instead of spawning the grain to bulk substrate i could just birth it whole and treat it as a brf cake in a sgfc ?
am i likley to run into any problems?


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: elcooperino] * 1
    #19020022 - 10/23/13 03:42 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The grains will dry out without a casing layer, so after the grains are fully colonized you could spread them out onto a tray and then case them.


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: Sagescruffy] * 1
    #19020067 - 10/23/13 03:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

even with a dunk and regular misting ?
i really want to keep it simple after fucking up before so i want to avoid doing anything that needs pasteurising, a casing layer seems intimidating to me aha
think putting some wet verm in like with brf cakes would be a good idea to help with the drying out or would that just not be enough ?


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: elcooperino] * 1
    #19025496 - 10/24/13 12:50 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: elcooperino] * 1
    #19025524 - 10/24/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

just try bulk again and closely follow the steps. You will have more issues if you try to be inventive. Do what works first, then experiment on your own.

Just do PF tek and make some beer or trade the rye.

If you are intimidated by pasteurizing then maybe this hobby isn't for you.


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: JohnnieYen] * 1
    #19025633 - 10/24/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Try the seed & plastic tek in m signature. My reasons were similar to yours


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: Violet] * 1
    #19026127 - 10/24/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

 

These are both rye berry cakes dunked then rolled in peat moss but I would 

just keep practicing bulk its way better

Also I got 5 flushes off every cake


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: rumfor69] * 1
    #19026221 - 10/24/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

rolled in unpasturised peat moss or .. ?


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: elcooperino] * 1
    #19026236 - 10/24/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Sterilized peat moss actually LoL but you can just use verm either of them just pasteurized


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: rumfor69] * 1
    #19026640 - 10/24/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i want everything to colonise in sterile environment in the jar, scared to add a second chance for contamination after failing.
think i could get away with doing PF tek substituting the BRF for whole rye grain ? would this help with the drying out ?


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: Violet] * 1
    #19026652 - 10/24/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Try the seed & plastic tek in m signature. My reasons were similar to yours




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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: hgmstl] * 1
    #19026680 - 10/24/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

i had a glance looooong read , couldnt find anything really involving my quistion


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: elcooperino] * 1
    #19028055 - 10/24/13 08:16 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

When I made the grain cakes they were just plain rye berries nothing more. 

The rye is rinsed, then allowed to soak in hot water for 24hrs, then boiled 

for 12 mins. Dry in strainer until grain is dry to the touch. Load jars 

and pressure cook. I dunked and rolled the cakes after every flush.


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: rumfor69] * 1
    #19028456 - 10/24/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I fruited wbs cakes with pretty good success before. I dunked and roll them. I misted heavily a few times a day and even injected water in them with a syringe part of the way through fruiting. Or you could try bottom watering

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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: Stromrider] * 1
    #19028911 - 10/24/13 11:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Here is some pics of my wbs cakes

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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: Stromrider] * 1
    #19029630 - 10/25/13 05:09 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

looks like im gonna give them a go , maybe put a bit of wet verm in the jar then dunk roll and heavy mistings.
thanks for the advice everyone (Y)


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: elcooperino] * 1
    #19029795 - 10/25/13 07:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Do mini bulk grow , Like small tubs
They colonize quicker so less chance of contam IMO

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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: Kalypto] * 1
    #19029880 - 10/25/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Do mini bulk grow , Like small tubs
They colonize quicker so less chance of contam IMO



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Kalypto said:
Do mini bulk grow , Like small tubs
They colonize quicker so less chance of contam IMO




I agree with this also. My buddy puts one jar of spawn with one jar of coir/verm and he always gets an oz dried just off the first flush


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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: rumfor69] * 1
    #19029933 - 10/25/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Gotta love the 1:1 ratio too since itll colonize super quick

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Re: rye grain cakes ? [Re: elcooperino] * 2
    #19030059 - 10/25/13 08:44 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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i had a glance looooong read , couldnt find anything really involving my quistion



How did you not? It's a tech for optimally fruiting straight-grains in any fruiting chamber


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