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Fully automated Terrarium
    #18662424 - 08/05/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Hi every one of you readers. Long time no see.
Ok know what you gonna think, here is another complicated stupid and expensive setup, that make more problems than shrooms:grin:

Well you are right. Today I start building Fully automated Terrarium.

Budget 100 euros.
Wish me luck


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18662443 - 08/05/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

This is the Base metal shelf 15 euros.


next on list is clear white polycarbonate resin thermoplastic for sides, because this baby is going to work indoor/outdoor :laugh2:


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18663520 - 08/05/13 01:06 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

I have to follow this one,good luck!


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Rockhound]
    #18666908 - 08/06/13 05:45 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

clear white polycarbonate resin thermoplastic or Lexan as we call it :smile: 70 euros.


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18667161 - 08/06/13 08:00 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

With those solid shelves, I would either
A) drill holes to allow the air to move through them
B) space the plastic out far enough away from the shelf, on all sides, that air can circulate around and down the shelf without issue.

Depending on how you pipe in your humid air, I see those shelves as possible blockades to air circulation. Just be aware of it if you are not already.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: FunnyLight]
    #18668702 - 08/06/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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FunnyLight said:
With those solid shelves, I would either
A) drill holes to allow the air to move through them
B) space the plastic out far enough away from the shelf, on all sides, that air can circulate around and down the shelf without issue.

Depending on how you pipe in your humid air, I see those shelves as possible blockades to air circulation. Just be aware of it if you are not already.



Agreed.  I've used an indoor FC much like this, with solid shelving I mean, and you want to ensure you have plenty of room for air-flow. 




And this doesn't seem like AM material....


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: SpawnRun]
    #18676957 - 08/08/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tip SpawnRunS, and FunnyLight.Rockhound thanks and this is going to be fun to follow :smile:

For now i spent 85 euros for this setup. Shelf is build with stainless steel screw then measured carefully. Lexan is cuted on formatizer as they call it here, its something like CNC but less accurate and uses blade. My friend and I cut the holes for the doors with scalpel. For horizontal cut we used regular scalpel and for vertical we heat the scalpel with torch (because of the chambers).

here are some pictures

  Open

  Closed

For door closing I used a neodium magnet ball, It is called neocube try on youtube.

The tight seal problem and lights are next, then as we finish the boxshelf, air holes air filter and humidity problem are next.
It is a one week project so be patient.


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


Edited by Hofmann1943 (08/08/13 11:55 AM)


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18680435 - 08/08/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

looks great my man deff gunna keep a eye on this :thumbup:


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: justarandom]
    #18697270 - 08/12/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

HOFMANN, have you considered getting some automation stuff from here?

I found a similar thread to yours through searching the forum, budgeting a fully automated GreenHouse, Controled by a computer program. costing $600 USD.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: justarandom]
    #18699059 - 08/13/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

mmm not really first of all 600$ is too much i think.

You can buy really nice caner (sterilizer) for that kind of money and free yourself hours of time.

This box is going to be complicate to build. But there is a hairy big but behind this build. Every aspect of this box every piece of it is designed to free you time and ease you work.

I use only the best materials i can find so it will last "forever":grin: 
Cleaning will be modular so you can clean one box and one above and one below will still work fine. Cleaning will be never easier and all the maintenance too.

I plan these for 3 years now trying green houses, and weed tents but always i found something bad in this systems like tent get molded even if you clean it, so you have to put it in machine washer and destroy it after second time wash. :smile:
And air tight is never an option with this kind of materials. I other words you can never seal all holes.

automation is going to be made with

1. Analog timer for light

2. Digital timer (8 programs) for ventilation and misting (maybe 2 timers one for ventilation and one for mist but i have to try it first)

3. Mistmaker fog star that i already have.

4. 4 x 1w led cold white (one on every shelf

5. Ventilator

6. Air filter


I am waiting for some materials to finish this beauty.


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18704599 - 08/14/13 02:08 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Awesome stuff, do you plan to turn this build once fully operational into a tek journal ?

that thread i mentioned regardless of cost i liek the idea of being able to control a GH from accross the globe lol :P

Thanks for this thread again HOFFMAN


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: SpencerPhillips]
    #18753228 - 08/24/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

still waiting for updates! catch us up please with how your project is comming thanks! :popcorn:


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: justarandom]
    #18759620 - 08/26/13 01:33 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

justarandom said:
still waiting for updates! catch us up please with how your project is comming thanks! :popcorn:




I know it's been just about two weeks, although i'm likely not goign to follow the same build used here. it's cool stuff.

miss you HOF


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: SpencerPhillips]
    #18774667 - 08/29/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry guys for the delay.
We are building 3 complete setups at the same time and some serious problems occur.
I must inform you that my friend and I took some serious thinking :bobmarley:
After which we found best solutions.

Now almost everything is solved we only wait for stronger magnets for the doors because small magnetic balls from neocube are too weak. They hold the doors but if you move the whole thing just a little bit all the doors fall down. We ordered stronger magnet cubes 6x6 from China :grin:
The magnets are coming in 2-3 weeks so the doors will be the last step in this project.

Tomorrow i will take pictures of all the things we did in last 2 weeks and show them to you.

The only open problem is filter for dust. If you have any suggestions we would like to hear them and i will tell you tomorrow what we think of.


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18777197 - 08/30/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

im not sure what kind of filter u mean

are you using some kind of intake system (if so need to know what kind of intake fan you plan to use ext space n whatnot) to do controlled FAE
or
more passive like a monotub with holes in this case i think some kind of pc fan filter would be cool


not sure though might be 2 much FAE

this would deff be very cool (shop vac filter) but a bit pricey you could attach some kind of flex ducting or anything really to the back of the fan and route it to your terrarium

found Here at amazon
not sure what your looking for please explain would love to throw out ideas.
Pictures of what you currently have might help others suggest ideas as well.

there are all kinds of duct fans and filters as well would just be difficult to find one small enough not to be crazy overkill
and if you are going to use pc fans make sure you snag fans with high static pressure to pull the air threw the fan filter


Edited by justarandom (08/30/13 12:43 PM)


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: justarandom]
    #18777773 - 08/30/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

Well this look nice and fancy :tongue2:

Here is what we did so far.

We prepare all elements like walls doors and floors. We drill one hole in floor and ceiling for FAE. Close the holes of some wall chambers so that we get a air tight environment without leakage from outside.
One side of the wall is sealed with help of aluminum rods 8x8 that we use for backing up the construction. We use plastic gun :thumbup:




on other side of the wall we manage to do this without the rods but it was hard as hell.

Fist put a little bit on the side ,then on the other side,then on the other side,then on the other side...Is this exo? ......weeee mery go round :rofl:

Humidity Chamber


Piece of stirodur (something like styrofoam just little harder because of bigger density) and a plastic pot do miracles. You can put water for whole month if you need to and just tell your friend to come and harvest them if you are not home :grin:

The fan is a toilet fan 170m^3/h but that is not a problem if i needed more FAE i will put stronger fan, or change the time of ventilation. 
Here is the system


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18777802 - 08/30/13 02:58 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

so practically the air filter is nothing more than a dust filter that come before humidity chamber and i think on going for slower but longer FAE only one hole R=3cm between boxes the slower the better i think. We could by one but i think of making one. so any suggestions there would be nice but pay and ready to go is also nice:grin:

We already break the budget for about 100 euros till the end so throw all kind of ideas cheap and expensive ones .


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #18785493 - 09/01/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I use automated terrariums comprised of an upside-down large monotub with an aquarium hose bubbling into a short, wide-mouth bottle of water. On the outside, each terrarium has it's own cfl or led light set on 12/12 time. I place ready-to-fruit containers inside each aquarium and off they go. i bottom water between flushes and nothing else.


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Re: Fully automated Terrarium [Re: Bilge]
    #18788130 - 09/02/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I had something like that, it worked, but I wanted to bring it to the next level and air pumps are too loud for me because i do this in the room where i sleep and live for the most of the time.

I had almost the same setup couple of years ago,
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12442349/page/2
now I'll do the same just a couple of upgrades :grin:


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By Albert Hofmann :
Been cautious man, I though I would start with a smallest, smallest quantity. Namely I started with 0.25mg.....and my intention was to increase dosage to see if something will happened.
That very small dosage, the first dose of my experiments i planed, was very very strong.


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