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Advanced communication
    #1820893 - 08/16/03 07:30 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

before I repeat this story, I'm please asking anyone who concludes that this story is invalid, please to not respond. (i hope thats not too much to ask) unless of course you have something positive to say

This was taken out of Dr. Wayne Dyers "There's a Spiritual Solution to Every Problem"
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I will conclude this section with a story told to me by my friend Gary who lives in New York, but was raised and schooled in India.
Each year at the completion of the school year in June, Gary's father sent him to live witha master teacher (guru) in an ashram with many other young boys. Here he would be immersed for a couple of months annually for the purpose of heightening his spiritual awareness. There were two large cabins at this particular ashram, and on the first day of the summer, all the boys were given the following instructions.
"You are to remain in total silence for the first four weeks. No talking at any time. If you break silence even once, you will leave the silent cabin and live in the second cabin where you may talk to your heart's content for the rest of the summer."

There was no threat of punishment. Simply leaving the silent cabin was the only consequence of breaking the silence. Gary told me that he was able to go for about four days without talking the first year. Then off he went to cabin two. In the second year he went approximately ten days, and in the third year he was able to go for two weeks before he finally broke the silence.
About the time of his fifteenth birthday he knew he was going to the ashram and he made an inner commitment that this year he would definitely complete the prescribed time for silence, no matter what. He actually placed tape over his mouth and used other gimmicks to ensure he would not break silence even once. He noted that each year, at the end of the silence month, only two or three boys were still residing in cabin one. And sure enough, finally after years of struggling, Gary completed the month without ever once breaking the silence.
On the last day, the guru came into cabin one and sat down at the kitchen table with Gary and the other two boys who had been able to remain totally silent for the entire designated time period of one month. He tells me that the four of them had the most remarkable experience of communicating that he had ever known. They told each other stories, they laughed, they cried, and they asked each other questions. For several hourst hey interacted in the most intense conversation Gary had ever experienced. During the entire time of those conversations in which they all communicated intensely and intimately at a deep feeling level, not one single sound was made, not one word was spoken.

You may find it difficult to beleive that communication without words or sounds is possible. Yet I know Gary to be truthful, a man of integrity. I leave you to draw your own conclusions. I am convinced that when we become truly illumined, our inner calmness, when taken to an extreme, allows us to transcend reliance on symbols and noise, and to know the peace of God. My conclusion is that we can communicate through our own inner calmness in ways that are infinite rather than finite.




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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1820912 - 08/16/03 07:39 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

wow.


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1820937 - 08/16/03 07:46 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

What is your point?

What does silence teach? This story is dogmatic! Nothing is learned by silence, exept obediance! Do you understand?


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1820952 - 08/16/03 07:53 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

This is an interesting story...
I once realised I could recieve communications made without words... but I had difficulty giving them... or at least I had trouble figuring out whether or not they were interperated correctly.

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Re: Advanced communication [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #1820972 - 08/16/03 07:57 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Don't try to speak, merely listen and you will understand...

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Re: Advanced communication [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #1820976 - 08/16/03 07:58 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

thats awsome hermit


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1821000 - 08/16/03 08:05 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

You avoid the questions that are hard to answer !

Please be more real.


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: sirreal]
    #1821024 - 08/16/03 08:13 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

The story is for each of us to conclude our own opinions about.

The only part I typed was "I'm please asking anyone who concludes that this story is invalid, please to not respond. (i hope thats not too much to ask) unless of course you have something positive to say "

did you read that part?


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1821031 - 08/16/03 08:17 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

who says this is advanced? :wink: It sounds more primal to me than modern language... I mean shit two puppies can do the same kind of thing; sharing vibes without a single vocal utterance.


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1821045 - 08/16/03 08:24 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Bullshit!

I hate your story! It teaches blind acceptance! you are full of shit!

Ask me any questions you would like , it is bullshit!


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: sirreal]
    #1821060 - 08/16/03 08:30 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

can you please delete your posts?

I started out this post with a simple request, please dont reply if you dont take positive things from this

instead close it and keep them to yourself, i'm not going to learn much from your negative comments.


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1821068 - 08/16/03 08:34 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

You are nuts!

I question everything.....including you!



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Re: Advanced communication [Re: sirreal]
    #1821074 - 08/16/03 08:35 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

but you dont respect my simple request


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1821088 - 08/16/03 08:40 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Don't answer unless I agree with all of this!

Bullshit!


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: sirreal]
    #1821097 - 08/16/03 08:44 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

rather, dont answer if your going disagree with it

like the saying "if you dont have anything good to say, dont say it at all"

that simple request is to avoid pointless arguments like this, thank you I wont be replying to anymore comments which deliberately go against my humble request.


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: sirreal]
    #1821103 - 08/16/03 08:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

are you okay sirreal?

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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1821106 - 08/16/03 08:48 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

[quote dont answer if your going disagree with it





You are fucked. My humble apologies. But you are fucked!!!


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Rastafari]
    #1821131 - 08/16/03 08:55 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

"you guys?" meaning me too?

rofl fuck that - I find it fascinating that such intense "connectedness" can occur without opening one's mouth, but don't agree with your label of "Advanced" because I think this is how people "spoke" to eachother before we confused things with detailed vocal language.


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Re: Advanced communication [Re: sirreal]
    #1821160 - 08/16/03 09:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

if you strongly disbelieve in mental communication you are unlikely to ever experience it. Why do you have a problem with people who have made a different choice of belief?


have a nice day :wink:

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Re: Advanced communication [Re: Strumpling]
    #1821168 - 08/16/03 09:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

I appologize, i didnt mean you.

and I totally agree with what you said

i picked the topic of this story very quickly... but I do think theres something advanced about gaining perspective from silence

sure beats losing it to the chaos of the monkeymind


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