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Patlal
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What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago?
#18093477 - 04/11/13 06:32 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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It would probably cost like 500 billion and be a political nightmare, but in the end, I think its would be worth it. There's 15+ million people in these 3 cities alone without taking in consideration the surrounding towns.
So if Harper and Obama announce this high speed train tomorrow, what would you think?
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal] 1
#18093504 - 04/11/13 06:39 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think that'd be pretty cool but I'm just skeptical the government wouldn't fantastically screw it up.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Mycjunky] 3
#18093526 - 04/11/13 06:41 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mycjunky said: I think that'd be pretty cool but I'm just skeptical the government wouldn't fantastically screw it up.
The government wouldn't build it silly. Illegal immigrants would.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal]
#18093572 - 04/11/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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What's the point?
I feel like you just picked three random cities out of your ass.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal]
#18093590 - 04/11/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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My Amtrak connects where I live (Literally a block away... which is fucking annoying) to Montreal, and NYC.
60$ a ticket. Pretty sick. Gonna go up to Biodome on my daughters 5th Birthday.
Fuck a highspeed train. What a waste of money... The Amtrak is awesome enough.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Everlong]
#18093598 - 04/11/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everlong said: What's the point?
I feel like you just picked three random cities out of your ass.
Because if you connect chicago toronto and new york, you're automatically connecting Detroit, Buffalo, cleveland, pittsburg, phili and Newark because they are directly on the way.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal]
#18093604 - 04/11/13 06:53 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd ride this train.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal] 1
#18093617 - 04/11/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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terrible investment, driving from NY to Chicago, not that damned much time, a few hours, taking the train is roughly the same length of time, while it goes slower than 60mph there's no traffic lights to deal with, a high speed train may make it there in half the time, cost 3x or 4x as much and in the end, it's the same pile of shit that amtrak has become, another government welfare program
high speed rail from atlanta to new york, new york to los angeles, places like that would be more sensible because of the distance, NY to LA could have a stop in chicago, there could be a spur to toronto, vancouver and where ever else. atlanta could stop in DC and then to NY. the big problem, they now have to compete with discount airlines and the savings of time suggest the airlines would win based on time and price
there's been a discussion about this for years but as usual, it's not worth while it would be more obama spending, he may even call it green transportation which would probably the the most accurate thing he's called 'green' because trains are pretty efficient
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal]
#18093630 - 04/11/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everlong said: What's the point?
I feel like you just picked three random cities out of your ass.
Because if you connect chicago toronto and new york, you're automatically connecting Detroit, Buffalo, cleveland, pittsburg, phili and Newark because they are directly on the way.
you've just eliminated the high speed and fuel efficiency aspects of the train
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal]
#18093661 - 04/11/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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What would be some of the practical uses of the train?
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: DarkElf]
#18093688 - 04/11/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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DarkElf said: My Amtrak connects where I live (Literally a block away... which is fucking annoying) to Montreal, and NYC.
60$ a ticket. Pretty sick. Gonna go up to Biodome on my daughters 5th Birthday.
Fuck a highspeed train. What a waste of money... The Amtrak is awesome enough.
Atlanta to Seattle on Amtrak is $414, it's an overnight trip, nearly 24 hours. Atlanta to Seattle is a 7hr flight and would cost $300, the train is a waste of money. great if you ant to look out the window and see the country
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18093708 - 04/11/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everlong said: What's the point?
I feel like you just picked three random cities out of your ass.
Because if you connect chicago toronto and new york, you're automatically connecting Detroit, Buffalo, cleveland, pittsburg, phili and Newark because they are directly on the way.
you've just eliminated the high speed and fuel efficiency aspects of the train
Not really. It would be roughly one stop per hour and it wouldn't stop for an hour. It would stop just long enough for the drop off and pick of passengers. So roughly 5 minutes. Plus these things accelerate pretty fast so you're back at full speed quickly.
With the stops it would take maybe 3 to 4 hours to go from chicago to New York instead of 12. Airplanes are faster but they are more troublesome.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18093709 - 04/11/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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DarkElf said: My Amtrak connects where I live (Literally a block away... which is fucking annoying) to Montreal, and NYC.
60$ a ticket. Pretty sick. Gonna go up to Biodome on my daughters 5th Birthday.
Fuck a highspeed train. What a waste of money... The Amtrak is awesome enough.
Atlanta to Seattle on Amtrak is $414, it's an overnight trip, nearly 24 hours. Atlanta to Seattle is a 7hr flight and would cost $300, the train is a waste of money. great if you ant to look out the window and see the country
Umm... Forget the money saved or the time... It's a train!
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: DarkElf]
#18093774 - 04/11/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Build a high speed rail from Toronto/Montreal to Vancouver Air travel in this country is just fucking stupid
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Katzenjammer]
#18093782 - 04/11/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Katzenjammer said: Build a high speed rail from Toronto/Montreal to Vancouver Air travel in this country is just fucking stupid
Do you have 2 trillion dollars?
Let me remind you that this country is the second largest on the planet...
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal]
#18093790 - 04/11/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everlong said: What's the point?
I feel like you just picked three random cities out of your ass.
Because if you connect chicago toronto and new york, you're automatically connecting Detroit, Buffalo, cleveland, pittsburg, phili and Newark because they are directly on the way.
you've just eliminated the high speed and fuel efficiency aspects of the train
Not really. It would be roughly one stop per hour and it wouldn't stop for an hour. It would stop just long enough for the drop off and pick of passengers. So roughly 5 minutes. Plus these things accelerate pretty fast so you're back at full speed quickly.
With the stops it would take maybe 3 to 4 hours to go from chicago to New York instead of 12. Airplanes are faster but they are more troublesome.
according to the US DOT there are about 5,800 vehicle train crashes each year in the United States, there's far fewer plane crashes and the wait time at a station for a train exceeds 30 minutes because people have to unload, load, baggage has to be moved, etc... the typical wait time is around 45 minutes, that's why it takes so long to take a train trip
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Katzenjammer]
#18093796 - 04/11/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Katzenjammer said: Build a high speed rail from Toronto/Montreal to Vancouver Air travel in this country is just fucking stupid
what if you have to drive from labrador to vancouver?
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: DarkElf]
#18093800 - 04/11/13 07:21 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seems like it would make more sense to connect the Northeast: DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, (maybe Pittsburgh), NYC, and Boston.
There is already existing track most of the way, and being able to travel between all these hubs in an hour or two would allow you to make a truly casual commute among them all.
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Patlal]
#18093807 - 04/11/13 07:22 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's okay, once Trudeau Jr wins the next election, spending $2 trillion wont see any hesitation
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Re: What do you guys think of a high speed train connecting New York, Toronto and Chicago? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#18093809 - 04/11/13 07:23 PM (10 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because if you connect chicago toronto and new york, you're automatically connecting Detroit, Buffalo, cleveland, pittsburg, phili and Newark because they are directly on the way.
you've just eliminated the high speed and fuel efficiency aspects of the train
Not really. It would be roughly one stop per hour and it wouldn't stop for an hour. It would stop just long enough for the drop off and pick of passengers. So roughly 5 minutes. Plus these things accelerate pretty fast so you're back at full speed quickly.
With the stops it would take maybe 3 to 4 hours to go from chicago to New York instead of 12. Airplanes are faster but they are more troublesome.
according to the US DOT there are about 5,800 vehicle train crashes each year in the United States, there's far fewer plane crashes and the wait time at a station for a train exceeds 30 minutes because people have to unload, load, baggage has to be moved, etc... the typical wait time is around 45 minutes, that's why it takes so long to take a train trip
I thought of the luggage situation. I would put a limit, like nothing more than you can carry. Kinda like a city subway. It would mostly be used for business, not vacations.
EDIT: Or maybe have a train that only does the 3 big cities that would allow luggage. Of course it would cost more per ticket.
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